Garfinkel would have done well to actually have learned Java instead of
writing about it. What you find with Java is that a middle-level Java
programmer will produce much better code than a middle-level C++ programmer;
Java also doesn't punish coders for using standard mechanisms. (To wit:
using ArrayList or HashMap is decent, and doesn't carry the performance hit
that most implementations of the STL do.) A middle-level Java programmer
also is not often affected by memory leaks; being able to avoid such things
on a constant basis is often one of the requirements for being an advanced
C++ programmer. Java also has built-in distributability - you not only can
have your database on a separate machine, but you can have your database
OBJECTS on a separate machine, and you can have that expensive
report-generating bean on yet another machine, and none of these machines
have to be running the same operating system. (And portability is part of
that. I routinely develop on an operating system far different from the
systems I deploy on.)

Garfinkel may mean well - I can't tell. But he's way off base; I don't mind
stuff like this because it keeps the clueless away. Java has enough steam
without people who need constant positive press to remain enthused.


>From: Sazilah Salam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
>     reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Comments on JSP & Java related technologies
>Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:33:18 +0800
>
>Dear Java (/ JSP) Experts,
>
>Do you all agree with the following statement by Simson Garfinkel (full
>story is accessible at
>http://www.salon.com/tech/col/garf/2001/01/08/bad_java/email.html?  Any
>strong point to backup my investment on using JSP & Java related
>technologies?
>
>Thank you very much in advance.
>
>Sazilah
>
>--------------
>Java: Slow, ugly and irrelevant
>The programming language once hailed as a revolutionary breakthrough is
>no substitute for simply
>training good programmers.

<snip!>

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