My feeling is that if you want good graphics and layout in a webpage use a mix of
HTML and Javascript and if you need even better capabilities try Flash. The Flash
plug-in is much smaller than the new applet plug-in (about 300k vs. 6M) and you can
get good performance from very small flash files. Also, most people already have
at least an older Flash plug-in. You can of course still continue to use JSP or
servlets to interface with the app server.
"M. Simms" wrote:
> This is patently false......
> JSP DOES NOT determine the user interface.....
> only it can improve the sophistication of the HTML which delivers the
> interface.
> Many websites are using Javascript with large script libraries to improve
> the user interface......
> NOT JAVA or JSP.
>
> JSP cannot do many things doable with an Applet....it's just impossible.
> Graphics rotation and live data feeds for instance.
>
> Applets are unpopular because :
> 1) most users with browsers can "shutdown" their built-in JVM
> 2) the browser JVM's are old and don't support many JDK 1.2/1.3 classes
> 3) applets can increase page size considerable....most applets of any
> substantance are at least 20-50k in size.
> 4) Microsoft will not support applets in the next version of their browser
> (unless the government beats Bill Gates into submission and puts him in jail
> (where he belongs) for about 3 months)
>
> John: are we having fun yet ;)
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin, Janet
> > Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 2:07 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: JSP vs. Applet
> >
> >
> > Andy: JSP can handle anything HTML can handle plus! Therefore - of course
> > it can handle a robust UI! We are currently designing one here. I can't
> > give our code out on the net but trust me - it can do whatever
> > you have the
> > imagination to do!
> >
> > BTW: tabing is function of HTML forms (try a test form yourself) where you
> > can set tab order.
> >
> > If you use an Applet be aware that they make for a fat client and you are
> > subjecting your users to long download times each time they try to access
> > your page vs. a JSP/HTML form which is a thin client (which is
> > what the web
> > is really for).
> >
> > You might want to go to any local bookstore and pursue the web
> > design books
> > and/or check out info on the web on what HTML can do. There are
> > any number
> > of sites that have "pretty robust" UIs. Just cruse around and
> > set what you
> > find.
> >
> > Janet
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andy Oei [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 5:31 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: JSP vs. Applet
> >
> >
> > Hi:
> >
> > This is a novice question:
> > I am developing an "intranet database application" that needs to have a
> > "pretty robust" User Interface. Example: I have to be able to use full
> > keyboard control, like tab-ing from one field to another logical
> > field. The
> > application is like an Invoice Header and Line Item where you can pick a
> > vendor for the invoice header and pick inventory item for the
> > invoice line -
> > both on one screen/page.
> >
> > Should I use applet for this purpose or can JSP handle a robust user
> > interface? Anyone has an example?
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> > Andy Oei
> >
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