Of course you can declare vars in <%! %>.
The only thing I said is that it's not meant for 'variable declaration'.
Calling <%! %> tags 'declarations' in the JSP specs was a huge mistake. For
people who know exactly what they're doing, and who have worked with
servlets and so, it's no problem.
The others, who don't know java but jump immediately to JSP have a big
problem.
For those, my only advise is: Don't use <%! %> at all.
You'll come to a point where it will become clear what it is. Untill the,
use <% %>.
Geert Van Damme
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Nicholson
> Sent: woensdag 21 februari 2001 2:20
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: <%! %> and <% %> ??? Which is it? Im confused
>
>
> Gert is wrong in that you can declare variables with <%! but what he is
> trying to say is that it's only safe to declare methods and not variables
> this way. If you declare variables they will be declared as instance
> variables and anybody who knows servlets will know that instance variables
> are bad WRT to race conditions and threading.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jann VanOver
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 5:06 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: <%! %> and <% %> ??? Which is it? Im confused
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure what Geert was referring to saying that <%! wasn't
> to declare
> > variables. Here's what my book says:
> >
> > "A declaration allows you to make page-wide definitions within
> a JSP page.
> > A declaration is typically used to define variables or methods
> > used in your
> > JSP page. Declarations do not write any output back to the client. The
> > syntax for a declaration is as follows: <%! declaration(s) %>"
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Joyner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 8:41 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: <%! %> and <% %> ??? Which is it? Im confused
> >
> >
> > Ive been monitoring this singleton thingy, now Im upside down,
> Im a newbie
> > coming from ASP- and learning the tags................
> >
> > Is someone valiant enough to clarify, what tag is what?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Da-Ming Duan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: difference between variable declared using <%! %> and <% %>
> >
> >
> > > Discussion is always welcome! Geert, can you please explain the
> > difference? I
> > > believe you can.
> > >
> > > DMD
> > >
> > > Geert Van Damme wrote:
> > >
> > > > NO NO NO
> > > >
> > > > If you don't know what <%! %> exactly does. Don't use it.
> > > > And you apparently don't know it.
> > > >
> > > > <%! %> is NOT meant to declare variables.
> > > >
> > > > Again an example of a really bad post. If you don't know it. Please,
> > don't
> > > > answer, or at least specify that it's only a wild guess
> > > >
> > > > Geert Van Damme
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
> > reference
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Surya Prakash
> > > > > Sent: maandag 19 februari 2001 9:59
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: Re: difference between variable declared using <%!
> > %> and <%
> > %>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > hi kishor
> > > > > <%! %> it declares variables or methods valid in
> > > > > the page scripting language
> > > > > <%%> contains a codefragment valid in the page scripting
> > > > > language
> > > > > this may help u
> > > > > surya
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Kishor K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 9:34 AM
> > > > > Subject: difference between variable declared using <%!
> %> and <% %>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > can anyone tell me the difference between variable
> declared using
> > <%! %>
> > > > > and
> > > > > > <% %>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanx in advance
> > > > > > kishor
> > > > > >
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