>From: Terrence Gleed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and > reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: OT >Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 14:27:43 -0000 > >Mr. Joseph Ottinger and those of a like mind are under the impression that >the JSP-INTEREST network solely exists in order for them to arrogantly >demonstate there expertise in the subject matter. How so? I figured questions asked here weren't demonstrations of lack of knowledge, but actual questions. If a question's been asked, the point is to get an answer, not to say "Hi, I don't know what I'm doing..." -- and it only makes sense that if someone has an answer and is willing to say what the answer is, then that person might actually have a motive of giving the answer - not necessarily an "I know better than you" response. Of course, it should be obvious that a person who DOES know the answer DOES apparently know better... >They remind me of the car driver who with the same arrogance, irrates all >within hearing distance by honking his horn when he comes upon a learner >who >has made an error or is over cautious when undertaking a manoeuvre; this >because the learner has not mastered the skill of driving as yet; this >because the learner knows the ideal but lacks a little confidence to >procede. We do? Funny... the analogy to me would be that we're honking our horn at the captain who's trying to dock on a highway, rather than at a dock. I don't mind "Why doesn't <jsp:include /> work the way I expect?" half so much as "Why doesn't my applet work?" -- <jsp:include /> is JSP, while applets aren't. >Mr. Joseph Ottinger and his coronies should remember that - as with the car >driver - they also began on novice row. Yeah, but me and my "coronies" (sic :) got OFF of "novice row." If anything, I'm trying to encourage people to stop being lazy and get off of "novice row" themselves... especially when there are lots of resources to help them do that, resources that don't require offtopic posts here. And yes, that includes reading those silly error messages that tell you exactly what the problem is. >To finish, it strikes me that the JSP-INTEREST was set up - to a large >extent - to consider all questions, however silly or basic they may be >deemed by some members. The rationale being one that such a free flow of >exchanges will aid the broadening of knowledge of JSP. But it wasn't set up to consider all questions. If it was, "Camry or Accord" would be spot on topic, right? Isn't that a question? Isn't it silly? (I think so.) JSP-Interest was set up for JSP questions, not JDBC, not EJB, not applets. JSP. JSP. JSP. (Repetition included just in case you're scanning.) Silly questions, sure. I've asked them myself. I still ask them, in fact. I suffer from the same developer's myopia that every developer I know seems to be afflicted with every now and then. (To wit: "Why isn't this <atransform:xml /> working? AAAAAGH I'm GOING INSANE!" -- "Oh, yeah, the prefix is wrong, has been the whole time.") But I don't inflict too many of them on a public list until I've exhausted my options, and if I'm asking a list, it's an appropriate list - not the first list I find. I'm not trying to be a jerk - but I can't change how you see things. If you're the kind of person who demands handholding, if you expect people to be nice to you despite spamming a list with inappropriate dreck... it doesn't bother me what you think of me. I still do what I think is correct; I offer advice where I can, along with a pointer to where the information can be found with less impact on an overloaded list. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com =========================================================================== To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set JSP-INTEREST DIGEST". Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.html http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=JSP http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=Servlets
