Funnily enough, I've just heard a rumour that Microsoft may be considering
porting .NET to Linux.  One way to consider this would be that some Linux
users could come to depend on .NET for their applications, and then one day
find themselves in a tricky situation when support for that platform is
withdrawn, forcing these users onto a certain competing platform...  I
suppose Sun could do this for Java (using a slightly different approach),
but nevertheless I feel that this is less likely.

----- Original Message -----
From: "christopher brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: JSP vs. ASP+


> ASP+ copies almost JSP identically.
>
> When you modify a JSP page, the JSP engine compiles it into a servlet,
> running under a JVM (Java Virtual Machine). Unless the JSP page is
modified
> again at some later time, future requests for the JSP page are directly
> handled by compiled servlet.
>
> ASP+ does the same thing.  If you change the ASP+ script's source code, it
> is recompiled.  A compiled ASP+ script is not compiled directly into
native
> code for Windows (such as a DLL or EXE), but instead into "intermediate
> language" ("IL"), which is more or less the same thing as Java bytecode
(but
> not compatible).  This IL is executed by the .NET runtime (ASP+ is one
part
> of Microsoft's .NET strategy), in the same way as a JVM executes bytecode.
>
> As for the number of languages supported by .NET, be careful... what they
> really mean is that ASP+ can use scripts written in any language that has
> been adapted / extended to support features of IL bytecode.  Which is why
> VB, MS JScript, etc. are being rewritten and/or extended to become
> object-oriented, etc.  One way to think of it is that each language says
the
> same thing, just phrasing it slightly differently. So don't expect any old
> Perl script or COBOL program to run under .NET/ASP+... they must conform
to
> language features required by .NET.
>
> Furthermore, with .NET, you're required -- or at least expected -- to use
> certain APIs, such as ADO+ for data access.  So, whether or not C# (for
> example) becomes a standard or not is irrelevant... if C# was implemented
> with Unix, it probably wouldn't have any access to Microsoft's proprietary
> APIs, such as ADO+.  As I said, I used C# as an example, but the same
vendor
> lock-in issues apply also to other key components of .NET.
>
> Generally JSP is much better, as it can be implemented using
cross-platform
> APIs with any vendor (this has been a genuine advantage for me...).
> Remember however that Java is still more or less proprietary technology
> too... For the time being at least though, Sun are doing a good job,
> evolving Java in the right directions...
>
> -Christopher Brown
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Sankowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 12:50 AM
> Subject: jsp vs asp+
>
>
> some guys from my company went to a m$ asp+ users group presentation here
in
> denver a couple of months ago. they were told that asp+ is compiled,
> supports a bunch of different languages (like perl??), has built in
support
> for soap/xml, has some kind of page caching feature, has process
recycling,
> etc., etc.
>
> also ...m$ is claiming that since asp+ is compiled it is faster than jsp
> (yeah right, like vb is faster than java).
>
> i've seen some material on jspinsider.com and i konw jsp has to be better
> since it's written with java. has anyone else looked at asp+?
>
> --Mike
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