Heh, I'm famous now. :)

I'm not frustrated at the office; I just vary between watching the list
descend into moron hell and trying to prevent said descent.

Only a fool uses an API without understanding anything about it; only fools
would disagree with it. (Slightly exaggerated examples: "Why can't I use
JavaMail to update a database? Why should I understand anything about how
mail works in order to use JavaMail? How do I use JTable in JSP?")

There's a difference between a newbie question ("Why would it tell me that I
can't open port 25? I never specified it, and the tag is throwing an
exception...") and a stupid one ("Why would I use Javamail to send mail? In
VB I don't have to...") and an off-topic question ("Tomcat won't start!
Help!") -- and assuming one is in a snit because of observation of that is
kinda... dumb.

>From: Shawn Zhu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
>     reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: JavaMail with JSP
>Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:55:10 -0700
>
>lol!!! And Jim, I hear ya.  Those are the frustrations
>that Mr. Joseph Ottinger face with this mailing-list constantly.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chase, Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 3:06 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: JavaMail with JSP
> >
> >
> > Then don't answer...
> > Tough day at the office Jim?
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Rueschhoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 5:04 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: JavaMail with JSP
> >
> >
> > The host, port, user etc. is for the connection to the email
> > server that you
> > will use to deal with email.  JavaMail is a mail client set
> > of methods, it
> > is not a mail server.
> >
> > You should really at least attempt to read the documentation
> > and try to
> > understand what a package does before installing it.  I don't
> > mind answering
> > questions, even beginner questions, but I do get frustrated
> > when the person
> > asking has not even read the documentation of the package they just
> > downloaded before asking questions.  Please read the javamail
> > documentation
> > FIRST and then if you don't understand something, please ask
> > for help here.
> > This is especially true if you feel the need to call yourself
> > Supreme Being.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification
> > and reference
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Supreme Being
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 1:19 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [JSP-INTEREST] JavaMail with JSP
> >
> >
> > How do i get this information? I just installed Jrun 3.0 on
> > my win98 PC. I
> > did not install or configure any smtp on my machine. I did
> > download and put
> > JavaMail from Sun's site.
> >
> > >Transport smtp = Session.getTransport("smtp");
> > >smtp.connect(host, port, user, password);
> >
> > which port, user, password & host do i have to use here?
> > because i don't
> > know any other than the one that my JRun uses.
> >
> > SupremeBeing
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Justy
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > >> Aneesha,
> > >>
> > >> how can i setup my SMTP host?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> SupremeBeing
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >Date:         Mon, 21 May 2001 07:54:01 +1000
> > >> >From: Aneesha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >SUBJECTTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >
> > >> >Hi
> > >> >> Aneesha,
> > >> >> thanks a LOT! my connection to mySQL with JSP is
> > working GREAT now.
> > >thanks
> > >> >a ton. i did place my .jar files in the /servers/lib dir
> > instead of
> > where
> > >> >they were and it's working. tell me something, if  remove the
> > %CLASSPATH%
> > >> >references from my autoexec.bat, will it work? cause i
> > think JRun's not
> > >> >using the classpath.
> > >> >>
> > >> >Glad to be of assistance. You can remove the references from the
> > >classpath -
> > >> >if Jrun is gonna be the only app that needs access to these.
> > >> >
> > >> >> Somehow my JavaMail is still not working. I did put all
> > my .jar files
> > >> >concerned with JavaMail (mail.jar, smtp.jar,
> > activation.jar etc.) in the
> > >> >/servers/lib dir...but it's still not working.... could
> > you tell me what
> > >> >could be wrong and how to use JavaMail with JRun?
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >I'm not sure about the javamail. I'll have to test this.
> > What error
> > >message
> > >> >are you getting? I do no that within the Jrun/lib/ext
> > folder you will
> > >find
> > >> >activation, mail and pop jar files. Jrun has a send mail
> > tag. You should
> > >try
> > >> >this and see if it works.
> > >> ><%@ taglib uri="jruntags" prefix="jrun" %>
> > >> >
> > >> ><jrun:sendmail host="owa.allaire.com"
> > >> >               sender="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > >> >               recipient="[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > >> >               subject="Hello from SendMail tag">
> > >> >Testing. C.
> > >> ></jrun:sendmail>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Hi
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >JRun does not use the classpath. Check the
> > documentation  for sure
> > but
> > >I
> > >> >> >think you place the jar files in D:\Allaire\JRun\Servers\lib\
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Aneesha
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> this is what i'm putting in my autoexec.bat :
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> SET CLASSPATH=%CLASSPATH%;D:\Allaire\javamail\mail.jar
> > >> >> >> SET CLASSPATH=%CLASSPATH%;D:\Allaire\jaf\activation.jar
> > >> >> >> SET CLASSPATH=%CLASSPATH%;D:\Allaire\javamail\smtp.jar
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> and still my JavaMail ain't working. What could be wrong?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> SupremeBeing
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >Date:         Sat, 12 May 2001 17:08:55 -0500
> > >> >> >> >From: Shahed Ali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >> >> >Subject:      Re: JavaMail with JSP
> > >> >> >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >You also need smtp.jar in your classpath
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
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> > =
> > >=
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> > >> >> >> >Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at:
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html
> > >> >> >> > http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.html
> > >> >> >> > http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=JSP
> > >> >> >> > http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=Servlets
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> >> >> Are you a Hoboe?  Hobnob at http://www.hoboe.com
> > >> >> >> Click here -> http://www.hoboe.com Global Mail Access
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
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> > >> >> >>  http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.html
> > >> >> >>  http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=JSP
> > >> >> >>  http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=Servlets
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> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
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> > >> >> >Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at:
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> > >> >> > http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html
> > >> >> > http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.html
> > >> >> > http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=JSP
> > >> >> > http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=Servlets
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> >> Are you a Hoboe?  Hobnob at http://www.hoboe.com
> > >> >> Click here -> http://www.hoboe.com Global Mail Access
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> > >> >>  http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.html
> > >> >>  http://www.jguru.com/jguru/faq/faqpage.jsp?name=JSP
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ******************
> > >> >From my right-eye i create all for myself, from the
> > left-eye i accept
> > all
> > >that there is otherwise. It is nothing more than what i
> > deserve, for i am
> > >the Supreme Being
> > >> ******************
> > >>
> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> > >> Are you a Hoboe?  Hobnob at http://www.hoboe.com
> > >> Click here -> http://www.hoboe.com Global Mail Access
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> >
> >
> >
> > ******************
> > From my right-eye i create all for myself, from the left-eye
> > i accept all
> > that there is otherwise. It is nothing more than what i
> > deserve, for i am
> > the Supreme Being
> > ******************
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > Are you a Hoboe?  Hobnob at http://www.hoboe.com
> > Click here -> http://www.hoboe.com Global Mail Access
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