Yes, I know Microft is not marketing and Microsoft have nice products;
I'm mostly a Microsoft programmer; I did a lot of ASP programming, but I
like more to work with JSP; Actually I work on a COM+ project, so I'am not
an anti-Microsoft;
And you are right nobody will win the battle; JSP and ASP(+) will share the
market;
But is very funny to see people who really believe Microsoft will take the
web market; So a joke is not so bad :)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and reference
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Garry
> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 5:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ASP vs. JSP
>
>
> Hmmm...
>
> As someone who has had quite a lot of experience in the ASP/COM
> area and has
> moved to JSP/Java in the last few months I suppose I will still be more
> naturally biased towards the Microsoft way.
>
> In my experience and from what I've seen in the past, I don't think either
> will 'win' and the likely outcome is that both will become popular as they
> both have particuarly good attributes. If you work for a company
> that makes
> extensive use of Microsoft products - then you simply will find ASP/COM is
> far more useful than JSP/Java. If you demand platform neutrality
> and if you
> have practically anything other than Microsoft servers, then
> JSP/Java is the
> more useful. You will probably find that two markets open as more
> companies
> side with either product.
>
> I really am not sure as to what the future holds for both languages - one
> way I look at my potential skillset is that I can actually decide which is
> the best way of solving THE PROBLEM - which is the most
> appropriate language
> to solve the problem as opposed to how I should use my lanuage to
> solve the
> problem. It may also mean that I am not a 'master' of either language
> though, but I can live with that.
>
> One field to look at for the short-mid term is the rise of the
> mobile device
> - phones, PDAs, games consoles etc. My guess, for what it is
> worth, is that
> both Microsoft and its detractors will be competing for running their
> softwares and services (whatever they are likely to be) on these machines
> and, possibly, will not always be running Windows, Java, Linux, Palm etc.
> Maybe Java may fill this field - I believe Nokia will be using
> Java on their
> phones, but I have also seen mobiles that will be using Windows CE such as
> the Sendo one.
>
> In the longer term, it may be that the actual OS/language becomes
> less of an
> issue and the focus move as to how disparate systems talk to each other -
> XML/SOAP etc may become more of a focus. I have worked on
> projects where my
> COM code has pulled in XML from JSPs and displayed the output using ASP!
>
> Finally, don't ignore Microsoft - they do hold a VERY important market
> position and DO actually write some pretty cool software, and
> they also have
> the servers, languages and full IDEs in place - and the .NET initiative is
> not going to go away. But, by the same token, don't by the same token
> dismiss JSP. It may be the lesser-used of the two, but it is growing in
> popularity. When I started out, ASP was NOT used - Perl was the de facto
> choice. Nowadays, it seems hardly anyone uses Perl for their
> coding and ASP
> is the language of choice. One thing I have seen in computing is that
> nothing ever stays the same.
>
> Be aware of both, particuarly their pros and cons and this is probably the
> most important aspect.
>
> Just my thoughts!
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dumitru Sbenghe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 14 August 2001 14:41
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ASP vs. JSP
>
>
> Thinking in Microsoft way :)
> Quality - no, marketing - yes;
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
> > reference [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of webmaster
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:17 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: ASP vs. JSP
> >
> >
> > ASP will take the market in the near future, consider the
> > characterisitcs of the newest generation of microsoft tools and OS,
> > native java support for their very own versions, besides jsp are very
> > much linked to oralce and sun microsistems so microsoft will start to
> > get them the same way they did with netscape... so I think.
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Aftab Ahmad wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 11:44:10 +0100
> > > From: Aftab Ahmad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: ASP vs. JSP
> > >
> > > Hello
> > >
> > > Which one will be more popular in future ASP or JSP?
> > > Any url that has excellent comparison. Thanks
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Aftab
> > >
> > >
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