Well, I'd suggest not using the j2ee sdk from Sun AND ignoring
Apache/Tomcat, myself.

I'm biased, to be sure - but I've found Orion to be a J2EE compliant app
server (at a very low cost, including "free for development"), and its
performance is stunning. It also has far fewer compliance problems than
Tomcat, and since it contains a web server (that outperforms Apache, plus
lacks mod_proxy or any other forwarding mechanism) it's very easy. Most
people can set up Orion within one minute: unzip, copy tools.jar, java -jar
orion.jar and you're running.

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Joseph B. Ottinger               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://adjacency.org                  IT Consultant



>From: hugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
>reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: jsp with or without j2ee
>Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 12:59:54 +0800
>
>Hi
>
>I am in the process of totally recreating our website and apart from the
>layout and design, I am looking into what underlying technology would be
>best. For dynamic html I have decided I would like to stick to jsp and
>servlets. I also would like to run my webserver on a linux platform. I
>may also use a little perl for legacy stuff, but any new server side
>scripts should be mainly java.
>
>What I am not so sure about is whether I would go for Apache + tomcat or
>use j2ee and ejb. The latter seems to be used extensively, but when I
>downloaded it and did the tutorial from Sun (although I am sure the
>technology is very good) I found it to be somewhat cumbersome, with a
>complex process in creating jars, then ears, then adding an interface
>for the client etc. To start using an application, you have to start a
>client service on the server for every .ear package you have written -
>again, perhaps a bit cumbersome and more suitable for very large
>websites where a lot of specific control is needed?
>
>Also: what I am not sure about is whether j2ee uses a full version of
>Apache with Tomcat: if you start j2ee it states is is using apache and
>tomcat, but I can't find any apache nor tomcat files anywhere. Would it
>be as fast as using Apache with tomcat on their own?
>
>My question is: what are the advantages of j2ee over just using Apache
>with tomcat, as I see j2ee is so widely used. Secondly, can you write
>javabeans easily WITHOUT using j2ee (e.g. just using Apache with tomcat
>for jsp and servlets, then using the ejb jar package).
>
>Are there other options I should consider, given I would like to go with
>java for server-side scripts on a linux platform, using Apache as the
>webserver?
>
>Thanks
>
>Hugo
>--
>Dr Hugo Bouckaert
>R&D Support Engineer, Fractal Graphics
>57 Havelock Street, West Perth 6005
>Western Australia 6009
>Tel: +618 9211 6000
>Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Web: http://www.fractalgraphics.com.au
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