The user Zahid (aka. QAS LAILA) has been suspended from the jsp-interest
list (again! I hate hotmail)

I don't know what his e-mails are about and I don't know why he calls me out
by name. He has a reputation of saying similar things on the other lists.
I've talked to people on these lists and they say he is trolling.

Please ignore his posts.

Justy

----- Original Message -----
From: "QAS LAILA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 6:52 AM
Subject: OFFTOPIC : BEAN -v- E BEAN


> Justy,
>
> BTW, The gentleman who informed that
> a. he did not claim to be muslim. Well he did.
> So Kevin Mukhar knows who that is and we want to know who it is.
>
> b. Kevin Mukhar also informed me
> I have been to three muslim countries and you are not a
> muslim leader. You clearly was confused with good nature and
> never got to know a muslim.
>
> Fabricating weblogic from cressoft.pk's account.
>
> Justy you have to investigate
> and let me have the results.
>
> I expect a full investigation by yourself or whos ever responsibility it
is.
>
> Best Regards,
> Zahid
>
> >From: QAS LAILA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: A mailing list about Java Server Pages specification and
> >reference <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: BEAN -v- E BEAN
> >Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 16:47:46 +0500
> >
> >Justy,
> >
> >First of all can I just make it clear that my reasoning
> >behind the question was as follows :-
> >
> >I have collected 120mgbytes of software from all over the place.
> >You may have noticed that I was told by Cressoft.pk that you will find
> >everything you are looking for up there.
> >
> >My reply was don't tell me where to find what.Hence the question
> >about setting up Apache and tomcat.
> >
> >I can't make a head or tail of any of this. I don't know the
> >target audience for a lot of this software too so I phrased my question
> >as I am confused what is the difference B/W this and that. Hoping to get
an
> >overview.
> >
> >I noticed that Shuja related to what "I wrote I am sure you have been
> >here before". (Real time - CPU , RAM , DISK , Cable connected to a port
> >(Ip address and port no).
> >
> >Amine - you're right too but you have a background in business
applications
> >whilst shuja has a background in low level.
> >
> >From what shuja has said to me (Orielly Series) appeals to me too
> >because I find it is easier to understand the detail implementation.
> >
> >Actually I have both books but couldn't understand the architecture
> >from Ed Roman's book or what one is trying to do.
> >I was confident I would get an explanation if had I phrased the question
> >the
> >right way from the right person.
> >I immediately recognised Shuja related to my disposition.
> >
> >I then went on to flip through the o'reilly book to find out the
> >terminology
> >used.
> >Commercial experience in EJBs or Java has nothing
> >to do with it.
> >
> >Ripan claimed we have commercial experience actually commercial
experience
> >for some people have nothing to do with. Just commercial
> >experience and understanding is enough for a few of us then it is just
> >matter of appliance details.
> >
> >I am glad there was somebody else apart from myself who related to
> >my question  and disposition and was kind enough to answer.
> >Once again Thank you.
> >
> >The explanation about the site.  I was just saying you have gone
> >too level for my requirement shuja ( rise in dynamic memory which bit
talks
> >to each other ) I know this is a business application
> >I need a higher overview of the components which go into EJBs.
> >Amine understood and obliged.
> >
> >This was a business application not real time.
> >I then went on to skip through o'reillys to find out how to use it.
> >
> >I found out the limitations of enumeration type quite quickly.
> >
> >If the balance of dynamic memory and volumetric data has
> >exceeded RAM capacity because of the implementation details then
obviously
> >it isn't going to work.
> >
> >It won't work with large images but it will with Banks.
> >
> >I would prefer to write it myself then buy weblogic.
> >I know I can do better.
> >No need to send me the tutorials I have all the documentation
> >I require.
> >
> >Can I have a complete list please so I know I have everything.
> >
> >Thank you.
> >Zahid
> >
> >http://theserverside.com/resources/book.jsp
> >EJB and Java Beans don't have anything to do each with the other. Java
> >Beans
> >are a specification to allow visual programming and component development
> >(so u can connect Java Beans from different vendors without knowing their
> >implementation). EJBs are a specification for distributed objects. It
> >defines what services should an Application Server -or a container- offer
> >to
> >developers (transactions, security, naming, ...) so they can focus on
other
> >aspects of developement.
> >
> >Hope it helps Amine
> >Amine
> >
> >Shuja Nawaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote
> >Hi.
> >Difference b/w Java Bean and EJBs. Both Java Beans and EJBs are component
> >models. Java Bean is intraprocess( a single process) where as EJB is
> >interprocess communication (communication between two processes). EJBs
need
> >to be deployed and need a special runtime env where as Java Beans don't
> >need
> >it. EJBs are for the middle tier where as Java beans are usually
developed
> >for the front end interface like buttons.
> >Books: Enter Java Beans (Orielly Series) and Mastring Enterprise Java
Beans
> >by ED Roman.
> >
> >
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