I agree with Joe, i'm newbie too... and I started with JSP and i
have encountered the same problems like experienced ASP programmer. Now i
was studying the OO concepts in deep using Java and some concepts about UML.
Remember, to be a OO programmer you need to modify your paradigm (like Joe
said: - forget the older bad habits...  The learning curve may be steeper
but it's worth it ).
        cheers.


> ----- Mensagem original -----
> De:           Joe Cheng [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Enviada em:           segunda-feira, 29 de outubro de 2001 18:01
> Para:         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Assunto:              Re: Beginners tutorial
>
> >> Does anyone know about a tutorial for a beginner of JSP, but has
> several
> years of experience of ASP and VBScript dev. <<
>
> Hi Henke-
>
> This is probably not what you want to hear, but I've always felt the best
> way to learn JSP is to learn Java first and try to forget what you know
> from
> your ASP days.  Once you understand OO concepts and how they work in Java,
> and how to write Java servlets, JSP becomes a very natural extension to
> what
> you already know.
>
> In contrast, trying to write JSP as if it is ASP will just lead you to
> very
> bad habits, such as embedding business logic and SQL code in the JSP
> rather
> than abstracting them away.  So if you can afford to, I recommend that you
> at least start by learning how to write basic Java classes, and then
> servlets, and then JSP.  Even better, read up on the J2EE framework and
> how
> all the pieces fit together--that will give you an idea of why it's bad to
> write JSP-heavy applications.  The learning curve may be steeper but it's
> worth it.
>
> Any JSP gurus out there with a different viewpoint?
>
> -jmc
>
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