Joe,

Simple answer is money.  This company uses an outdated frame relay system to
communicate between the different buildings.  The main building does have a
T1 coming into it for company internet access, but he does not have the
servers (hardware) and the bandwidth to run a true 24/7 web site, nor does
he have the personnel to support a web site.  Since he is hurting for money
(as everyone else is), he wants to avoid either purchasing the hardware
necessary to host his own internet site, or the costs of leasing the server
space with a large company such as Verizon.  He also wants to avoid any
further IT costs (I am a contract programmer, and once I leave, he plans to
letting the site continue to run without maintenance until he is forced to
modify the site).  Therefore, his on-site manufacturering engineer, who does
know some things about servers, suggested that he use his existing license
for Citrix to "host" this web site for his outside customers.  Thus totally
defeating the purpose of creating a web site, and paying me for the
resulting product.

As you stated, this company is NOT a technically savvy company, it is a
small manufacturer (about 4 million/yr).  The owner is about 60, and uses
the computer on his desk as a paperweight (he prints all his emails out, and
then returns his answer to the emails by telephone, or by writing his
response on the printed out email).  Despite his lack of technical
understanding, he is a nice guy.  It's just that I think they are making a
bad decision, and one that they will expect me to fix for them when the idea
doesn't work.  Plus I have to "politically" step around his manufacturing
engineer, who thinks he knows a lot more about networks and programming than
he really does.  So I want to talk them out of it, but I know very little
about Citrix, how it works, and what potential problems he may face by going
this route.  That's why I posted this question.  If anyone can see potential
problems with this idea, I would appreciate the feedback.

Celeste

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Cheng [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Anyone ever tried running a web app (JSP) using Citrix 6.0?


>> My boss, who doesn't really know or understand anything about web
applications, has decided to save some money on a JSP/Java web application
that we have developed as an intranet site, by setting up the site to run as
an internet site, but using Citrix to make it available to people outside
the company. <<

hahahahaha...

First of all, that's the dumbest idea I've ever heard. :)

Your users all have Internet Explorer installed on their desktops.  So he's
going to have them use Internet Explorer to access the Citrix client, which
will allow them to remotely control another copy of Internet Explorer--this
second copy being the one that resides on your network--which will then make
requests to your web application.

This, instead of simply having the first copy of Internet Explorer make
requests to your web application!!!

IE => Citrix => IE => webapp
IE => webapp

Which do you think will have the lower TCO?  Which you do you think will
have lower latencies?  Which will provide the better user experience?  Which
will not damage your credibility as a (presumably) technology-savvy
corporation?

(Answer: the second one)

If you're really in a pinch, why not move your web server outside the
firewall and just secure your private webapps using other means (which you'd
have to do anyway, even in the ridiculous Citrix scenario).

-jmc

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