Ola, I'm not really that familiar with ASP.NET, though I have worked in the Visual Studio 6.0. But I think I know where you are heading with this question, so I will give it a shot.
MS has a very nice set of application development tools that are fully integrated with each other for web development, whether you are using a combination of C#, VB.NET, and/or ASP.NET. I will give them credit for that. Although there are a LOT of IDE's and tools available for JSP/servlet/Java development, integrating your favorite tools and application server together for a development box can take you days. But no matter which tools you use, your not going to find the presentation of "GUI separation from the code separation" that you find in the MS application development environment (IDE). Having said the above, I've never found a single Java/JSP/Servlet tool that will give you the different "layered view" that you are use to in the MS .NET environment. Part of the problem is that the GUI controls you are using in Windows are proprietary to Windows, and are NOT true HTML GUI controls. You can get close to the type of view you are use to seeing if you follow the MVC architecture while developing your JSP/servlet/Java code(In fact, you should have VERY little Java scripting code in your JSP's, as the JSP's are considered your "view", and your logic should be embedded in either servlets or Java class objects, or a combination of both). Some IDE tools will give you the ability to view and modify the HTML code and HTML GUI objects in your JSP's, but they must be integrated with your application server in order to "render" the HTML code in the JSP page as an HTML view. JRUN Studio is the IDE I use, and it give me that ability, but only if I have it integrated with JRUN Server, and I have the server running on my dev box at the time I "view" my JSP. I understand that IBM Websphere also has and IDE that can be used for it's application server, and that it too can "render" HTML code for viewing that is contained in a JSP page. I hope that this info helped you. The biggest thing to remember between JSP and ASP development is that JSP development is done "towards a common standard" and that there are many vendors that you can choose from that "meet" the Sun standard, and that you can purchase an IDE from or an application server from. ASP development on the other hand is done within a proprietary application environment, NOT to a standard that is implemented by many vendors. Therefore, there is one defined IDE for .NET development, one set of GUI's that are proprietary (NOT pure HTML GUI's, but you can use HTML GUI's in .NET), and one way of developing and deploying a .NET application within that proprietary application framework. So it is very hard for MS developers to go from the MS way of developing an application to the Java/JSP way of developing an application, and it is NOT the development language that is the biggest barrier in my opinion, but the difference in philosophy that the development is done under. So much for my two cents worth. Celeste Haseltine, PE Dallas, TX -----Original Message----- From: Ola Theander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 7:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Q: Separation of layout and code (similar to Visual Studio.net)? Dear subscribers. I would like to know if there is some JSP engine, class library or similar that allows the Java code to be separated from the layout, i.e. HTML code, similar to what's available in MS Visual Studio.net? In VS.net a dynamic web page is built by two separate files, one file containing the layout of the page and one page containing the code. The code manages the objects in the layout file, e.g. a text box, list box etc. as objects with properties and methods, pretty much as if you where coding a GUI application. There is also the possibility to build more complex object composed by existing objects and HTML. The big advantage is that you as the developer will have an abstraction layer between the code and the layout and the graphics designer doesn't need to worry about the code. My question is, is there something similar to this on the JSP/Servlet/J2EE platform? Kind regards, Ola Theander =========================================================================== To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set JSP-INTEREST DIGEST". Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp http://www.jspinsider.com =========================================================================== To unsubscribe: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "signoff JSP-INTEREST". For digest: mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with body: "set JSP-INTEREST DIGEST". Some relevant FAQs on JSP/Servlets can be found at: http://archives.java.sun.com/jsp-interest.html http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/faq.html http://www.esperanto.org.nz/jsp/jspfaq.jsp http://www.jguru.com/faq/index.jsp http://www.jspinsider.com
