Hans,
Thanks for your feedback, last night after I asked the question, I
started to imagine that the objects were when the application started. I
was going to look today. My problem is finding out what the possible
atributes are, for example the Jakarta Taglibs have a simple but direct
documentation, they list the atributes. I guess I will have to look at the
TLD files and do some testing. Sun's page of JSTL has a few links and the
tutorial they have is almost, if not the same, material that comes with the
tabligs.
I look foward to reading your articles on onjava, I always check
there for new articles. From my point of view really simple examples dont
help that much, its the real world examples that help out. For example
before I buy a book on WebDevelopment or J2EE the first thing I look is if
the examples are all store examples, I am sick of store examples. :))
tiago
At 04:33 PM 8/8/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Tiago Nodari wrote:
>> Can anyone give me some pointers on where to find a useful
>>tutorial on how
>>to use JSTL, the material and examples at Jakarta dont help, 2 reasons they
>>just talk about the EL and not the other library, and the examples at least
>>for me at just crazy, I have no ideia where those objects are created, or
>>anything, they just apear :)
>
>They are created by a listener when the example application starts, just
>to have some data to work with in the examples. The source code for the
>listener is included, and IIRC it's described in the README file for the
>example application.
>
>Any object in any JSP scope (page, request, session and application) can
>be used, so you can create your own application data in a servlet, with
><jsp:useBean>, custom actions of scriptets.
>
>> And the article at OnJava(JSP Standard Tag Libraries, Part 1 and JSP
>>Standard Tag Libraries, Part 2), didnt help much....
>>
>> If anyone has any examples on using the rt part, it would help....
>
>The RT libraries are identical in terms of attributes and functionality
>to the EL libraries. The only difference is that to set a dynamic
>attribute value, you use a Java expression ("<%= ... %>") just as you
>do with standard and custom actions today, instead of an EL expression
>("${...}"). The EL is very powerful, though, so I strongly recommend
>that you try out the EL libraries instead.
>
>> JSTL look really powerful and useful, if I can learn how to use
>>it...
>
>JSTL is still fairly new (it was released in June) so there are not that
>many articles and books about it yet. But that will change very soon.
>The second edition of my JavaServer Pages (O'Reilly) covers JSTL in
>great detail (including the RT libraries). It will be released later
>this month. Another book I know of that will soon be released is Shawn
>Bayern's JSTL in Action (it's available as an ebook now). You can find
>others at <http://java.sun.com/products/jsp/jstl/>.
>
>Also keep an eye on <http://onjava.com/>; My first article in a series
>of articles about JSTL will be published in a week or so. The first
>one covers the EL and the core JSTL actions. Other articles will focus
>on the other JSTL tag libraries as well as how to combine JSTL and
>servlets. I'd also be interested in hearing from subscribers on this
>list what you'd like to see covered in this JSTL article series, or
>in other future web development articles for that matter.
>
>Hans
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