Think of this issue in terms of community.

Apache tries to build communities that own code bases. The appearance of @author tags can defeat this purpose, if people who see the tags become less inclined to contribute.

If contributors want recognition, there are other ways than @author tags to get it.

Craig

On Mar 31, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Harry Metske wrote:

I think we shouldn't dictate right now, how to deal with those conflicting
situations.
Is it very likely to occur ?
If it's not strictly necessary to make the choice now, I think we should let
it free.

But if anyone else on the list has a good reason to choose for an all-on or
all-off, please speak up.

regards,
Harry

2008/3/31, Janne Jalkanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Then what do we do with new people if some of them insist to have the
@author tag and some don't?


/Janne


On 31 Mar 2008, at 19:58, Harry Metske wrote:
Although I'm not a committer I'd like to comment :
I think both of you are right, there is code that is submitted
initially
fairly complete, and is not patched much afterwards, and if it is
patched,
it is only small bug fixes. In those cases you would want to keep the
@author tags.

On the other hand there is code that is initially submitted as a
simple
first prototype, and is afterwards greatly enhance by others. In
those cases
you should remove the @author tags.

If it is not exactly mandated by ASF how to deal with, let everyone
decide
for himself how to handle it, and you don't have to handle every
piece of
code the same, for some pieces keep your @author tag, for others
remove them
?

How about that, everybody happy ?

regards,
Harry

2008/3/31, Janne Jalkanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Case in point: The author of LuceneSearchProvider has not
contributed anything in what, two years?  Yet he still stands in
as the @author.  Would you go to him to ask for help, or should
you go to the mailing list?

I'd ask the list, but I would likewise *know* that the author hasn't
been seen for two years, information that would be lost if the
tag had
been removed.


The @author tag does not encode that information. Therefore, nothing
would be lost, if it were removed (and it might probably be a good
idea to remove it at that stage).

The code should really stand on its own legs.


You're saying you have your name on code you don't understand?


Yes.  Other people have modified code for which I am still the
@author, and I can't really claim that I know what that code does
anymore...  And I'm pretty sure I have modified a lot of the code
that other people claim to be @author of, and they no longer have any
idea what is going on.

That's how it goes with projects that have been running for nearly
seven years now.


/Janne




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