Janne Jalkanen wrote:
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I would much prefer that we stay with log4j, as this is for myself
only an added complexity, an added redundancy, with little benefit.
Mmmm... I suspect you didn't read SLF4J documentation, which I highly
recommend.
It is a front-end against several logging systems - and will work
together seamlessly with log4j as well. If log4j is your choice, the
change should be quite invisible for you (with the exception that
configuration *might* need to move to a separate file - which isn't
necessarily a bad thing, since our configuration is already somewhat
bloated). If it's not, then JSPWiki unfortunately at the moment cannot
give you a choice for your logging system. Considering that the log4j
issue with some containers seems to pop up every now and then, I'd say
that this is a low-hanging fruit which we can solve rather easily.
The point I was making is that regardless of SLF4J's benefits, it is
still Yet Another Jar File. Given that almost *all* of the software
we are currently using in almost all of our projects (i.e., those
based in Java) uses log4j, we don't really need any additional choice
of logging system. log4j is very simple to set up and we've had no
problem with it.
You solicited feedback on the proposal so I have provided that feedback.
As I wrote, I would much prefer we keep things simpler rather than not,
as JSPWiki's code base is getting remarkably more complicated as we
move to 3.0. It's not the friendly little software package it was a
few years ago. Obviously much of the changes are very welcome but I
hasten to point out that every time we make things more flexible we
also make them more complicated for somebody. Continuing to use log4j
is simply no problem for us -- we have no issues with it and would
prefer to keep using it. [E.g., for some of our projects I also was
quite happy with cvs and ant but am now forced to use svn and maven for
a lot of things, with very little if any added benefit).
Also, I *highly* recommend that you add to the JIRA instead of posting
to the mailing list. In a few months when the issue is discussed again,
it is unlikely that people will remember your comments from the mailing
list. :-)
Will do, thanks.
Murray
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