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From:   Wahe [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent:   Tuesday, March 17, 1998 2:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject:        Re: 6th contribution by Bertil Haggman from _Die Schere_


> Always wondered what E.J. exactly meant with
> the sentence of the titans being active and
> suffering "in und an der Zeit".

I understand he sees titans and humans equally under the rule of time.  The 
titans might be powerful in the present age, but they are not the creators of 
existence, rather creatures themselves. They are maybe able to bend time a 
little, but finally have to submit, like humans. This gives hope we might be 
able to cope with them.
Who is the "them" of your last line - the Titans presumably. So we're not 
identical with the Titans but merely subject to the same limitations?  I often 
find it difficult not to draw the identity titan = human. The Titans seem to be 
our present archetypes - we certainly have nothing much in common with the gods 
at this point. But if we are not the Titans, who are we in this mythological 
scheme - who can "cope" with the Titans? The humans,  the gods? I like to 
believe that we have all these beings inside, that the outer confusion over 
identity and loyalty is mirrored by an equivalent inner reality. Junger said to 
me that "Nietzsche war ein gross Titan" to which I asked, "und wir, was sind 
wir?".... "Das müsst ihr selbst entdecken". No help there. My wild guess?...We 
are, in a sense, Titans whose destiny is to discover and give birth to gods 
from within - from self-knowledge, via art and poetry. The fire of the gods is 
stolen and put to creative use. Excuse the self-indulgent digression - the 
topic is altogether irresistable! (I hope I don't sound like a new-ager!!! God 
forbid.)

Thomas Friese
Association Eumeswil Vancouver
http://www.eumeswil.org/

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