[email protected] wrote:
>
> Dear Bertil,
> I've read that book, and Schwarz's essay as well, of course. Schwarz older
> book dealing with Juenger is quite a good one, no doubt about that. His essay
> in Schwilk's birthday book for Juenger on the other hand is not convincing at
> all. To  discuss some of Juenger's prognosises is exactly what I'd like to do
> here in this (serious, as I hope) mailing list. It's not that I'd like to
> prove anything to you, I'd like to dicuss these questions of my own, as I
> have been dealing with Juenger now for long, and I'm trying to evaluate: what
> is his importance as philosopher, are his prognosises relevant, do they give
> any new insight, always compared with analysts like Marx, Schmitt, Kondylis,
> and others.
> I would be very grateful if you could start with discussing this topic. If
> you don't like that, if you prefer to go on with your "school" without being
> disturbed by questions from outside, I'll leave you alone. It's quite
> interesting for me, because I observed the mailing list members' discussion
> concerning the NATO bombing in Yugoslavia, which started with Ernst Juenger
> as reference point, but didn't prove any specific applicability of
> "Juengerian" insights in this concrete case.
> For my sake let's discuss his models of recognition in a more abstract manner
> then.
> Curiously waiting for arguments,
> Yours very truly
> KvK
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Sometime back I called into question a few of the statements EJ made in
the first sections of DIE SCHERE.  In particular, I thought that his
argument that no man dies before his time, that a man's life is properly
completed when he dies, no matter when or how he dies, is a paradoxical
and hence attractive position, but actually a specious one.  People die
prematurely and tragically; the world is unfair.  We debated the matter
on the list at some length.  The debate was on a high philosophical
level, without personal invective.

The more recent series of exchanges about NATO and the new world order
as roughly anticipated by EJ was not quite the same.  I had a problem
with my server at the time and did not receive any of the postings until
after the whole thing was over.  Reading about 50 e-mail messages all at
once, I discovered that after the first two or three exchanges they said
nothing and went nowhere, angrily.

 From these two experiences I conclude that the more productive
discussion will come in response to a specific text, such as to each
individual section of DIE SCHERE as it appears.  DIE SCHERE grounds the
discussion with a specific text, specific words and a specific idea of
the Master.  List members can throw in quotations from other texts, but
the discussion remains focused.  I don't mean to exclude any possible
discussion on any point, but I feel that the ongoing reading of a
specific EJ work is the backbone of the list.

So far I have agreed with none of the main points in DIE SCHERE, yet I
consider it a wonderful work.  The terse, aphoristic style; the subject
matter itself, which few respectable writers have treated; the realm of
associations--all these make me think that EJ is at the edge of a cliff,
looking into unexplored territory.  I don't quite agree with what he
says he sees, but want to go on looking with him.

GK




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