Just to clarify my understanding of the situation....
On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 05:03 PM, Warner Onstine wrote:
From what I've read on the incubator site he is the basic breakdown of what they are doing:
1) They will have a snapshot of the Jboss code which will be a full J2EE stack
No JBoss/GPL/LGPL code will be checked into an Apache CVS. I believe the idea is that whatever is missing in the first passes at the Apache codebase can be plugged in from the Elba codebase by users.
So those that need a full-blown stack can have right away and those that want to help develop it will know what pieces need work.
Basically most of the component pieces are already there they just aren't made to work together, it was interesting to note that they will probably make it work with both Tomcat and Jetty.
Very interesting indeed.
Not saying that Geronimo is good or bad, just something of note. Also, a large part of the development team are former Jboss committers which may be another reason why this is happening now (see http://coredevelopers.net).
I thought it was a pretty crazy thing for Apache to do, but if these guys can pull it off quickly and then start the certification process I'll change my mind. The timing was just too close to being made for pissing off JBoss and stirring up more trouble. Although JBoss seems to work well whenever I've used it, the whole lack of certification because their leader is an ass doesn't sit well with me. I'm glad to see JBoss getting smarter business-wise and seeming to be serious about certification now rather than being rogue outlaws. Competition in the open-source space is a good thing - may the best implementations/communities win!
Erik
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