> Consequently, I would be interested in presentations on [x,y,z] > but I would have little interest in [j].
Okay, so it is my fault for putting "Optimal J" and "Product Demo" in one original email. But I brought up OptimalJ because it may be part of my life in another few weeks. Originally I was just wondering if anybody had experience with the tool. ;-) TOPIC 2: OptimalJ I would be interested in an OptimalJ demo, if and only if: 1) first poll indicates that demos of XX min are acceptable to a majority and 2) a separate poll indicates that a fair amount of the GROUP would like to have an OptimalJ demo Please keep in mind that even if 1 & 2 are true -- a company still needs to offer or agree to present! BTW: I truly did not realize that Compuware was one of the companies who has already made such an offer. ---- And now an aside that flirts with the grey area, "Is this about OptimalJ or Demos?" Personally - I wouldn't rule out a product DEMO because it is "expensive" because that term is highly subjective. (ex. a product may be expensive to some, but a bargain at twice the price to others, and the opinion may change dramatically next week with a new employer/client) I'm not saying I would buy and/or be able to even afford OptimalJ (heck, I don't even know how much it costs)... but I would still be interested in a short demo of the technology (MDA) and how the tool can help. The trick would be if the presenter can give me a compelling TECHNOLOGY story, and "oh by the way" we have a product than can help. A chap did a preso like this with EJB 2.0... by middle of the preso I was convinced that Container Managed Persistence (CMP) using local interfaces was a Good Thing(tm). The presenter then slipped gracefully into, "Oh, and by the way, here is a demo using Borland JBuilder and BEA Server using CMP, notice how the tools help make CMP even easier." I had given JBuilder "The Finger(tm)" a week before, but the technology story was so compelling, I thought, "well... maybe JB might be worth re-installing... maybe." --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]