On Jan 3, 2006, at 7:06 PM, Chad Woolley wrote:
Hey,
First of all, if people want, I could volunteer for a quick
presentation - code coverage is something that I'm interested in,
and is sure to be a lively and controversial topic. Not sure if I
could pull together by next week though, and anyway we may want to
devote the entire time to discussing the future of this group -
which brings me to the next topic...
That sounds like an excellent future topic (as I agree with you on
devoting some time to discussing the group)
I really appreciate the time Warner has put into the group, and I
really want it to continue. However, everyone is always short on
time which is surely one of the reasons you want to step down. I
know I am chronically free with promises to help but short on time
to follow through with them, so I don't want to commit to anything
much myself.
Having said that, I think that one of the unique aspects of this
group is the plethora of interesting and knowledgable non-Tucson
alumni that are still active on the mailing list. I think we
should play on that strength, and move towards sponsoring more
"virtual" activities that everyone can participate in, ideally on
their own schedule. The "on your own schedule" part will probably
be appealing even to people still in Tucson.
One of the thoughts that we had was in using something like
Macromedia's Breeze to broadcast and capture meetings. Tim was going
to get together with Duffy to set this up, but either he or Duffy
have been out of town recently. Maybe they can try and set this up.
The idea of "code sprints" that someone had (or whatever it was
called) was a great idea - members of the group getting together
and working on some code. However, I think it would be much more
successful and fulfilling if it were "virtual" - like an open
source project. Also, I think it should be something that is
democratically determined to be of interest to a majority of the
members and completely created and owned by the members- in other
words, not an already-existing pet project, or part of someone's
real bill-paying work. I would envision the entire process and all
decisions to be driven by the members - even down to the choice of
topic, tools, and language (yes, I think we should consider other
languages than Java). I know I've got some killer app ideas that
I've never had time to work on myself that would be good candidates
(an IMAP syncer would be one, I just searched for one myself and
there is apparently nothing like this extant that is usable by
normal humans).
I was the one who initially called for a code sprint, I would love to
set it up as a virtual project, but also wanted the opportunity to do
some real-time coding with fellow JUGgers. I'm not sure exactly how
it would work virtually without some real-time capabilities (video,
conference-calls, but most of those are probable at this point with
skype or iChat, etc.). I plan on trying to get this off the ground
again relatively soon if people are still interested.
This could be managed just like an open-source project, with
existing (democratically chosen) tools, with everyone in the jug
having committer access and kept honest by continous integration
and (maybe) code coverage tools. Trac/subversion is my personal
favorite at the moment for project management.
It would probably be hosted at JavaForge as they have Subversion
access setup already, but that's just a quick answer.
Just an idea for discussion, and it sounds like a lot of fun and a
great learning opportunity to me, as well as interesting resume-
fodder. And, at the risk of making yet another promise that I
probably won't follow through on, I'll even try to get the ball
rolling if people are interested. Dunno what the JUG hosting
situation is, but I'm sure I could get the ball rolling there if I
had access.
I'm currently hosting the site on my box which is running FC3 right now.
Finally, I definitely don't think that this should replace the in-
person meetings and guest presenters, those are really important,
but those are also much more labor- and commitment- intensive for
whoever ends up running things officially.
Neither do I, getting together with people has been a big boost to me
and hope that it remains that way.
BTW - I didn't mention this on the list but I am trying to connect
all the Tucson JUG members in through LinkedIn (http://linkedin.com),
if you haven't signed on yet it would be great if you could so that I
can get an idea of who is out there in the community that we haven't
reached out to yet.
-warner
Happy New Year!
-- Chad
On 1/3/06, Warner Onstine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all,
Well unfortunately our presenter for January backed out and I do not
currently have a backup for next week. But there are still some items
we need to go over such as:
- my replacement
- future of the JUG (and those that wish to shape it)
So, even though we may not have a scheduled presenter I highly
encourage everyone to come down to discuss and decide the future of
the JUG!
As I will be continuing on with trying to coordinate the
presentations if anyone is interested in presenting even on a short
topic please let me know
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