Interesting. Thanks Warner!
Its surprising the JCP doesn't cover JUGs, given the level of governance it provides for specifications and the like. -jmz --- Warner Onstine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To my knowledge it isn't directly managed at all. > There are now > groups on the dev.java.net for all JUGs but there > isn't any kind of > overarching management. > > -warner > > On Sep 21, 2006, at 11:02 AM, josh zeidner wrote: > > > > > Warner, > > > > I am not alluding towards anything or anyone > that > > was not directly stated in the post. The message > was > > an inquiry. How is the JUG term managed? Does > SUN or > > JCP reserve jurisdiction over groups that use this > > term? > > > > Thanks, > > > > JMZ > > > > > > --- Warner Onstine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> First and foremost I feel that this is a list of > >> colleagues who can > >> freely exchange ideas and thoughts (mostly > relating > >> to Java, but > >> definitely not exclusively Java). In most cases I > >> will not intervene > >> as any kind of moderator, but I will feel obliged > >> (as should others) > >> when the list gets involved in a flame-war which > I > >> personally feel > >> violates the spirit of this list as well as the > >> overall good nature > >> that we have enjoyed. > >> > >> If you feel like making that sort of comment I > won't > >> stop you as it > >> doesn't reflect poorly on the JUG itself, it > >> reflects poorly on you. > >> And again, personally, I have seen nothing in any > of > >> the recent > >> comments that reflects poorly on anyone here, so > I'm > >> not sure exactly > >> what you're referring to. > >> > >> -warner > >> > >>> > >>> I guess its some kind of coincidence that I am > >>> noticing a high degree of informal commentary on > >> UG > >>> lists lately. You do realize that this kind of > >> thing > >>> reflects badly on customer and employer appeal? > >>> > >>> For instance, I could say some kind of offhand > >>> comment like "they'll give a greencard to just > >> about > >>> any slob who scraped up enough money to bribe > the > >>> DOL!". Obviously, some may be deeply offended > by > >> such > >>> a statement. > >>> > >>> Although it is certainly the prerogative of a > >> group > >>> to govern themselves the way they see fit, in > the > >> case > >>> of a JUG, there is the issue of the exploitation > >> of > >>> the legitimacy that the JUG term provides. I'm > >>> wondering if there are any regulations that deal > >> with > >>> this issue in the JCP or whether the JUG term is > >> an > >>> entirely public-domain all-purpose term that can > >> be > >>> utilized by any party. I would assume that if > >> there > >>> are no such regulations then either 1) JUGs will > >>> likely degrade in relevance( a process already > in > >>> effect ), 2) such regulations will be imposed in > >> the > >>> future. The problems of such exploitation > extend > >> to > >>> all members of a local area. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Josh Zeidner > >> > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
