Grails is very cool. I'd be much more likely to work with Grails then Rails (or 
JRuby/Rails). 
I like the Groovy syntax and am interested in Grails. I am not a big fan of 
Ruby or Rails and have little interest in either.

Still... I have a lot of clients that are comitted to JSF and/or Spring MVC and 
for that matter... Java the language.

Crank is by no means perfect, but it does handle listings well, and forms mgmt 
(file upload, relationship mgmt, master/detail, etc.)

If Crank grows into what Presto was (with more polish and tests), then it will 
be useful project for those who can't or don't want to use Grails/Groovy, which 
I imagine will be the bigger crowd for a while.

There will be a Crank Crud JSF and a Crank Crud Spring MVC. 

It will be a small niche for a while.

Not everybody wants to use Rails...

http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Rails+Ruby%2C+Spring+MVC%2C+JSF&l=

And Grails does not seem to be widely adopted yet.

http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Grails&l=

Crank Crud has a long way to go, and is not ready for a head to head comparison 
and wont be for a long time.

My personal feeling is that Groovy won't do well in the market until it has 
decent Eclipse IDE support. I hope it gets it b/c I dig Groovy. It reminds me 
of Python but cooler.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bashar Abdul 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:54 PM
  Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Hi guys.... Crank Crud Intro... JPA/JSF Crud 
tool


  Or, in Grails:

class Employee{   def scaffold = true}


  ----- Original Message ----
  From: Chad Woolley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:08:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [jug-discussion] Hi guys.... Crank Crud Intro... JPA/JSF Crud 
tool

  Or, in Rails:

  ruby script/generate scaffold Employee

  :)


  On 8/10/07, Rick Hightower <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
    Please check out...

    http://www.jroller.com/RickHigh/entry/crank_crud_intro 




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