-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 02/12/13 09:10, John Arbash Meinel wrote: > On 2013-12-02 13:01, James Page wrote: >> Morning folks > >> so far I have requests for: > >> mongo (default shell) > >> mongoexport (used in new juju backup plugin) > >> mongodump/mongorestore (useful) > >> I'm keen we don't bloat out the 'server' package to much - the >> binaries are quite large due to the requirement to statically >> link v8. > >> Which of these is core to the function of juju, and which are >> useful for debugging? Please also that the mongodb-clients >> package will still be available in universe so you will always be >> able to get any of the client tools that way as well (I'll >> probably keep those packages maintained to the latest point >> release for the released series). > > Is mongodump/mongorestore going to be in the mongodb-client or > mongodb-server?
Currently I was just planning a juju-mongodb package; however we could split things that need to be on the client end of juju into a juju-mongodb-clients package. > How is this going to relate if we have to release a custom version > of MongoDB (2.6 instead of 2.4). Yeah - that is tricky; that's why I was asking what do we need, rather than what is nice to have; I would suspect that mongo shell is probably forward compatible for example but that would not be nice if it wasn't. > The only thing we actively use on a regular basis (AFAIK) is > mongos and mongod. However, if we set up regular backup process, > then we'll need one of mongodump or mongoexport (I don't know what > the difference is between them). And obviously dump isn't very > useful if you can't restore, though at the point you are restoring > is a reasonable time to create new tools. > > I don't fully understand the difference from mongoexport vs > mongodump (it looks like dump generates a binary snapshot > compatible with restore, while export/import generate text > representations of the data.) > > I'd *really* like us to stick with *one* of them as the > recommended method for backing up the content. +1 - we can add them all but it bloats out a bit. > At which point, mongos, monogod and mongoexport/mongodump become > critical for the regular operation of the system (assuming we set > up backups as a regular process), and then mongo, > mongoimport/mongorestore become tools that you install when you > want to inspect/restore/probe/etc. > > If you're happier splitting them, I'm personally fine with that. I > *am* a bit concerned about them being split and then we bump the > version of juju-mongodb and then we end up without the > corresponding tools available. Installed sizes (taken from saucy which has the same v8 embedding): - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7.2M Sep 5 15:30 /usr/bin/mongo - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13M Sep 5 15:30 /usr/bin/mongodump - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13M Sep 5 15:30 /usr/bin/mongoexport - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13M Sep 5 15:30 /usr/bin/mongoimport - -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13M Sep 5 15:30 /usr/bin/mongorestore Expect about ~50% compression; - -- James Page Technical Lead Ubuntu Server Team james.p...@canonical.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSnGGZAAoJEL/srsug59jDjBcP+gNXfsVb29GqxlK9iICokbRO 8+zUueVR7BNf9CP10+p0xDcPRQPsiUZ7WTkqqvdXXtu/Mu3Y1OWIxLTidwz5DlBm Mi+oTebFDfd4oKiJHCC1GGoXs0wUioumjE++qfIafl1cV1YkbmxClewS6OczDf9I IsdzadFrArhmEwcyNUtDuAk4d2jJDy7s0ijYutFqNihWpGYE0aqG268Hk8lS6Ik3 +OftTOa7rDfH6F8Dd7/YACRPH6iYmwbyaNJrIzWmobWIkVvSp4RRVpsSQAUR3EMi Vu2oT0ipg+ySYL7ZsCYtqHkZbKh+Ft/p4ZBi03TzHj4aHBmmehgXxTKEglX+MRN5 7nOnLmNd5VSqu8Ur85P/E+FWB01eUUh8FL4nA4j1SXwwlf10YE4iFf/MVRBJBK5k LC7XZ0KqPjO3dcahCWfzg1fcRtXiEOBOXtiXsZu6WwyjRQq5UoHsh44yDeP5U4Kl g8xIYK0t1qmgYFzQPQnzoR4fGYPnVECgdfDA0kuC/1lxZJ4XEsK+Wis7rWFU6Ny7 rKj0S+6QHseg49WVYIpwRU98/2YWvG/clrCXVSv1cJQx0OevRLImN42GFJldZMLk PxRzsOzSommTng6jgXmLb89JCk4yegnRX8OrOLxVljWhaYPbiI1DfDhjIcukz6Vl gSGKQdNUoS5jgHH7LF6X =0AjE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Juju-dev mailing list Juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/juju-dev
