On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Tudor Rogoz <ro...@adobe.com> wrote:

>   Hi,
>
>
>  I'm new to juju and I just started to work on a new charm and I'm not
> sure how to solve several issues.I will appreciate any advice on this.
>
>
>  The topology that I want to achieve is described bellow:
>
>
>  My service (i will call it application service) "strongly" depends on
> the mongodb service [0].This means that the application service cannot be
> installed and started without a mongo previously configured for storing the
> application data.The problem is that when I'm deploying the service,
> automatically the install, config-service and start hooks will be
> triggered, but at this point my service cannot know about mongo service
> because a relation between the 2 services is not established yet.So, it's
> impossible for me to perform the product installation in the install
> hook.An ugly workaround would be to perform the installation in the
> relation-joined/relation-cahnged hook, but this would be my last
> option.Even in this case the service unit will appear as "started" after
> the start hook ends, but nothing will actually run there.
>
Stuart answered the main points; I'd like to add one more thing: we have
some work scheduled to enable charms to report that they are not yet ready.
The driver is exactly what you're describing: applications that require a
relation to be usable.

>  I would like for the charm to support the following scenario.
>
> 1/I deploy the application service
>
> 2/ the service unit remains in a pending state before the installation
> hook will run because the service unit has no access to a mongo service
>
> 3/ deploy the mongo service which successfully starts
>
> 4/ add a relation between mongo and application service. The app service
> will get the mongo connection information
>
> 5/ application service installation starts (the install hook is
> unblocked), and successfully starts
>
>
>
>  Another problem that i have is the following:
>
>    For example, one of my application units is getting the connection
> details from a specific mongodb unit while running the relation hook, were
> i can store the specific information for using it in another hook? Is there
> anything implemented in juju for this, or I should write the information in
> a file and store it on disk and read from there when is need it?
>
>
>  [0] https://github.com/charms/mongodb
>     <https://github.com/charms/mongodb>
>   charms/mongodb · GitHub
>  mongodb - Mirror of juju charm, pull requests and modifications welcome!
>  Read more... <https://github.com/charms/mongodb>
>    ​
>
>
>  Thanks a lot,
>
> Tudor
>
>
>
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