Stefan, I shared your moment of terror about the idea of posting plans (essentially all of which will be invalidated) to the home page.
Although it's huge volume of e-mail, I do feel like people who want to keep up with new developments in Julia should try to subscribe to the issue tracker and watch decisions get made in real time. It's a large increase in workload to ask people to both do work on Julia and write up regular reports about the work. -- John On Dec 10, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Stefan Karpinski <[email protected]> wrote: > I have to say the concept of putting plans up on the home page fills me with > dread. That means I have update the home page while I'm planning things and > as that plan changes and then do the work and then document it. It's hard > enough to actually do the work. > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:44 PM, David Anthoff <[email protected]> wrote: > +1 on that! Even vague plans that are subject to change would be great to > have. > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Christian Peel > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:15 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [julia-users] Re: home page content > > > > One thing that I would very much appreciate is some kind of development > schedule. For example > - Some kind of general roadmap > - a plan for when 0.4 and future releases will come > - Any plans to switch to a regular schedule? (yearly, six > months, ...) > - What features remain before a 1.0 release? > - When will following arrive? > > faster compilation > > pre-compiled modules > > Interactive debugging; line numbers for all errors > > Automatic reload on file modification. > > Solving P=NP > > I know that it's tough to make such a schedule, but anything that you can > provide would be helpful. Also, I'd be happy for something like a weekly > update; or a weekly blog post to help those who don't peruse this group in > depth each day. > > Thanks! > > Chris > > On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:41:35 AM UTC-8, Tamas Papp wrote: > > From the discussion, it looks like that homepages for programming > languages (and realed projects) serve two purposes: > > A. provide resources for the existing users (links to mailing lists, > package directories, documentation, etc) > > B. provide information for potential new users (showcasing features of > the language, links to tutorials). > > Given that space on the very front page is constrained (in the soft > sense: no one wants pages that go on and on any more), I think that > deciding on a balance between A and B would be a good way to focus the > discussion. > > Once we have decided that, we can shamelessly copy good practices. > > For example, > > 1. the R website emphasizes content for existing users (in a non-flashy > way that I am OK with), with very little material for new users, > > 2. about 1/3 of the middle bar on > https://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Haskell is for new users > (explanations/tutorials/etc), the 1/3 is for existing users (specs, > libraries), and the final 1/3 is for both (forums, wiki, etc), > > 3. http://new-www.haskell.org/ is mostly caters to potential new users > ("see how great this language is"), > > 4. the content of clojure.org is similarly for potential new users, > while the sidebar has links for existing users. > > Best, > > Tamas > > On Wed, Dec 10 2014, Hans W Borchers <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Look at the R home page. R is one of the most popular languages, and esp. > > so > > for statistical and computational applications. A programming language does > > not need bloated home pages. > > > > I like the old Haskell home page much more than the new one. The new one > > has > > large, uninformative background pictures and not much information in a > > small > > and readable view. The HaskellWiki front page was much better in that. It > > may > > not even be decided which version will win. > > > > [Clojure])http://clojure.org/) has a nice, simple and informative home > > page, > > while [Scala](http://www.scala-lang.org/) has overdone it like the new > > Haskell. For other approaches see the [Nim](http://nimrod-lang.org/) - > > formerly 'Nimrod' - and [Nemerle](http://nemerle.org/) home pages. > > > > In the end I feel the condensed form of the Python home page will attract > > more interest, for example with 'latest news' and 'upcoming events' on the > > first page.This gives the impression of a lively and engaged community. > > > > > > On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:23:37 AM UTC+1, Tim Holy wrote: > >> > >> I like the Haskell one better than the Rust one. > >> > >> --Tim > >> > >> > >
