On Thu, Dec 18 2014, Milan Bouchet-Valat <[email protected]> wrote: >> the weirdest part is that there are some people who seem to >> enjoy *really* helping users, all the while being somewhat >> insulting. it is my (incomplete) understanding that internal >> strife in the core development team has become negative, too. >> it will be up to the julia core team to set the community >> standard and watch themselves and the community to keep it >> alive. > > Indeed, apart from the harsh tone on the R mailing lists (I couldn't > have described it better than Ivo did), the factor that I think drives > developers away from R is the idea that "it's documented, so it's not a > bug and doesn't need to change". For some time you try to contribute > improvements to the project, but at some point you get tired of trying > to convince core developers just to be able to help somewhere. Result:
While I agree with the above description of the R community, we should take the context into account: R itself comes from S-plus, and there is quite a bit of legacy code that they would not want to break with incompatible changes. Hopefully Julia will never get ossified like this. Best, Tamas
