On Monday, April 20, 2015 11:23:48 AM Peter Brady wrote:
> Can you explain why this fixes the issue?  My understanding (which is
> apparently wrong) is that this kind of parameterization wasn't necessary
> since the compiler determines the types when the function is called and
> compiles it for that specific combination of types.  I was trying to follow
> the suggestions
> here
> http://docs.julialang.org/en/release-0.3/manual/style-guide/#avoid-writing-> 
> overly-specific-types. Are things different for constructors?

Not usually, but I suspect pointer may be a special case---it's not considered 
very julian to use it.

I didn't really have time to figure out specifically what went wrong in your 
version, but since you're interested, please do figure out the critical problem 
and then file an issue.

Best,
--Tim

> 
> On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 12:08:12 PM UTC-6, Tim Holy wrote:
> > I wonder if your color printing isn't working? Because for me
> > @code_warntype
> > raised some big red flags about setk_Unsafe(a). This fixed the problems:
> > 
> > function UnsafeSlice{T,N}(a::Array{T,N}, slicedim::Int, start=1)
> > 
> >     p = pointer(a)
> >     str = stride(a, slicedim)
> >     UnsafeSlice{T, N, Ptr{T}}(start, str, size(a),p)
> > 
> > end
> > 
> > --Tim
> > 
> > On Monday, April 20, 2015 10:47:04 AM Peter Brady wrote:
> > > I tried making UnsafeSlice a subtype of Abstract{T,N} but that didn't
> > 
> > have
> > 
> > > an impact.
> > > 
> > > The @code_warntype for update, size, and setindex! didn't raise any red
> > > flags
> > > 
> > > julia> @code_warntype setindex!(UnsafeSlice(zeros(Int, (10, 10, 10)),
> > 
> > 3),
> > 
> > > -10, 1)
> > > 
> > > Variables:
> > >   s::UnsafeSlice{Int64,3,Ptr{Int64}}
> > >   x::Int64
> > >   i::Int64
> > > 
> > > Body:
> > >   begin  # /usr/local/runs/compact-fd/symbolic/julia/test_alloc.jl, line
> > 
> > 19:
> > > GenSym(1) =
> > > (top(getfield))(s::UnsafeSlice{Int64,3,Ptr{Int64}},:p)::Ptr{Int64}
> > > 
> > >       GenSym(0) =
> > 
> > (top(box))(Int64,(top(add_int))((top(getfield))(s::UnsafeSlice{Int64,3,Ptr
> > {I
> > 
> > 
> > nt64}},:start)::Int64,(top(box))(Int64,(top(mul_int))((top(box))(Int64,(to
> > p(
> > 
> > 
> > sub_int))(i::Int64,1)),(top(getfield))(s::UnsafeSlice{Int64,3,Ptr{Int64}},
> > :s> 
> > > tride)::Int64)))) return
> > > (top(pointerset))(GenSym(1),x::Int64,GenSym(0))::Ptr{Int64}
> > 
> > end::Ptr{Int64}
> > 
> > > julia> @code_warntype size(UnsafeSlice(zeros(Int, (10, 10, 10)), 3), 3)
> > > 
> > > Variables:
> > >   s::UnsafeSlice{Int64,3,Ptr{Int64}}
> > >   i::Int64
> > > 
> > > Body:
> > >   begin  # /usr/local/runs/compact-fd/symbolic/julia/test_alloc.jl, line
> > 
> > 13:
> > > return
> > 
> > getfield((top(getfield))(s::UnsafeSlice{Int64,3,Ptr{Int64}},:size)::Tuple{
> > In> 
> > > t64,Int64,Int64},i::Int64)::Int64 end::Int64
> > > 
> > > julia> @code_warntype update(UnsafeSlice(zeros(Int, (10, 10, 10)), 3),
> > 
> > 3,
> > 
> > > 20)
> > > 
> > > Variables:
> > >   a::UnsafeSlice{Int64,3,Ptr{Int64}}
> > >   idx::Int64
> > >   off::Int64
> > >   #s3::Int64
> > >   i::Int64
> > > 
> > > Body:
> > >   begin  # /usr/local/runs/compact-fd/symbolic/julia/test_alloc.jl, line
> > 
> > 31:
> > > GenSym(3) =
> > 
> > getfield((top(getfield))(a::UnsafeSlice{Int64,3,Ptr{Int64}},:size)::Tuple{
> > In> 
> > > t64,Int64,Int64},idx::Int64)::Int64 GenSym(0) = $(Expr(:new,
> > > UnitRange{Int64}, 1,
> > :
> > :(((top(getfield))(Intrinsics,:select_value))((top(sle_int))(1,GenSym(3)):
> > ::B
> > :
> > > :ool,GenSym(3),(top(box))(Int64,(top(sub_int))(1,1)))::Int64)))
> > > :
> > >       #s3 = (top(getfield))(GenSym(0),:start)::Int64
> > >       unless (top(box))(Bool,(top(not_int))(#s3::Int64 ===
> > 
> > (top(box))(Int64,(top(add_int))((top(getfield))
(GenSym(0),:stop)::Int64,1)):
> > > :Bool)) goto 1
> > > :
> > >       2:
> > >       GenSym(6) = #s3::Int64
> > >       GenSym(7) = (top(box))(Int64,(top(add_int))(#s3::Int64,1))
> > >       i = GenSym(6)
> > >       #s3 = GenSym(7) # line 33:
> > >       GenSym(2) =
> > 
> > (top(box))(Int64,(top(add_int))((top(box))(Int64,(top(mul_int))(-10,off::I
> > nt> 
> > > 64)),i::Int64)) GenSym(5) =
> > > (top(getfield))(a::UnsafeSlice{Int64,3,Ptr{Int64}},:p)::Ptr{Int64}
> > > 
> > >       GenSym(4) =
> > 
> > (top(box))(Int64,(top(add_int))((top(getfield))(a::UnsafeSlice{Int64,3,Ptr
> > {I
> > 
> > 
> > nt64}},:start)::Int64,(top(box))(Int64,(top(mul_int))((top(box))(Int64,(to
> > p(
> > 
> > 
> > sub_int))(i::Int64,1)),(top(getfield))(a::UnsafeSlice{Int64,3,Ptr{Int64}},
> > :s> 
> > > tride)::Int64))))
> > > 
> > > (top(pointerset))(GenSym(5),GenSym(2),GenSym(4))::Ptr{Int64} 3:
> > >       unless
> > > 
> > > (top(box))(Bool,(top(not_int))((top(box))(Bool,(top(not_int))(#s3::Int64
> > > ===
> > 
> > (top(box))(Int64,(top(add_int))((top(getfield))
(GenSym(0),:stop)::Int64,1)):
> > > :Bool)))) goto 2
> > > :
> > >       1:
> > >       0:  # line 36:
> > >       return a::UnsafeSlice{Int64,3,Ptr{Int64}}
> > >   
> > >   end::UnsafeSlice{Int64,3,Ptr{Int64}}
> > > 
> > > .
> > > 
> > > However, running this on the setk_Unsafe function:
> > > 
> > > julia> @code_warntype setk_UnSafe(zeros(Int, (10, 10, 10)))
> > > 
> > > Variables:
> > >   a::Array{Int64,3}
> > >   us::UnsafeSlice{T,N,P<:Ptr{T}}
> > >   #s1::Int64
> > >   j::Int64
> > >   #s3::Int64
> > >   i::Int64
> > >   ####p#3255#3279::Ptr{Int64}
> > >   ####str#3256#3280::Int64
> > > 
> > > Body:
> > >   begin  # /usr/local/runs/compact-fd/symbolic/julia/test_alloc.jl, line
> > 
> > 40:
> > > ####p#3255#3279 = (top(ccall))(:jl_array_ptr,$(Expr(:call1,
> > > 
> > > :(top(apply_type)), :Ptr, Int64)),$(Expr(:call1, :(top(svec)),
> > > :Any)),a::Array{Int64,3},0)::Ptr{Int64}
> > > :
> > >       ####str#3256#3280 = stride(a::Array{Int64,3},3)::Int64
> > >       us =
> > 
> > ((top(apply_type))
(UnsafeSlice,Int64,3,typeof(####p#3255#3279::Ptr{Int64}):
> > :Type{Ptr{Int64}})::Type{_<:UnsafeSlice{Int64,N,Ptr{Int64}}})(1,####str#32
> > :56
> > 
> > #3280::Int64,(top(tuple))((top(arraysize))(a::Array{Int64,3},1)::Int64,(to
> > p(
> > 
> > 
> > arraysize))(a::Array{Int64,3},2)::Int64,(top(arraysize))(a::Array{Int64,3}
> > ,3
> > 
> > 
> > )::Int64)::Tuple{Int64,Int64,Int64},####p#3255#3279::Ptr{Int64})::UnsafeSl
> > ic> 
> > > e{T,N,P<:Ptr{T}} # line 42:
> > >       GenSym(4) = (top(arraysize))(a::Array{Int64,3},2)::Int64
> > >       GenSym(0) = $(Expr(:new, UnitRange{Int64}, 1, :(((top(getfield))(
> > 
> > Intrinsics,:select_value))((top(sle_int))(1,GenSym(4))::Bool,GenSym(4),(to
> > p(> 
> > > box))(Int64,(top(sub_int))(1,1)))::Int64)))
> > > 
> > >       #s1 = (top(getfield))(GenSym(0),:start)::Int64
> > >       unless (top(box))(Bool,(top(not_int))(#s1::Int64 ===
> > 
> > (top(box))(Int64,(top(add_int))((top(getfield))
(GenSym(0),:stop)::Int64,1)):
> > > :Bool)) goto 1
> > > :
> > >       2:
> > >       GenSym(7) = #s1::Int64
> > >       GenSym(8) = (top(box))(Int64,(top(add_int))(#s1::Int64,1))
> > >       j = GenSym(7)
> > >       #s1 = GenSym(8)
> > >       GenSym(5) = (top(arraysize))(a::Array{Int64,3},1)::Int64
> > >       GenSym(2) = $(Expr(:new, UnitRange{Int64}, 1, :(((top(getfield))(
> > 
> > Intrinsics,:select_value))((top(sle_int))(1,GenSym(5))::Bool,GenSym(5),(to
> > p(> 
> > > box))(Int64,(top(sub_int))(1,1)))::Int64)))
> > > 
> > >       #s3 = (top(getfield))(GenSym(2),:start)::Int64
> > >       unless (top(box))(Bool,(top(not_int))(#s3::Int64 ===
> > 
> > (top(box))(Int64,(top(add_int))((top(getfield))
(GenSym(2),:stop)::Int64,1)):
> > > :Bool)) goto 4
> > > :
> > >       5:
> > >       GenSym(9) = #s3::Int64
> > >       GenSym(10) = (top(box))(Int64,(top(add_int))(#s3::Int64,1))
> > >       i = GenSym(9)
> > >       #s3 = GenSym(10) # line 44:
> > >       GenSym(11) = (top(arraysize))(a::Array{Int64,3},1)::Int64
> > >       GenSym(12) = (top(arraysize))(a::Array{Int64,3},2)::Int64
> > >       GenSym(13) = (top(arraysize))(a::Array{Int64,3},3)::Int64
> > 
> > (top(setfield!))(us::UnsafeSlice{T,N,P<:Ptr{T}},:start,(top(convert
> > 
> > ))((top(fieldtype))((top(typeof))(us::UnsafeSlice{T,N,P<:Ptr{T}})::Type{_<
> > :
> > 
> > UnsafeSlice{T,N,P<:Ptr{T}}},:start)::Type{_},(top(box))(Int64,(top(add_int
> > 
> > ))(i::Int64,(top(box))(Int64,(top(mul_int))(GenSym(11),(top(box))(Int64,(t
> > op
> > 
> > 
> > (add_int))((top(box))(Int64,(top(sub_int))(j::Int64,1)),(top(box))(Int64,(
> > 
> > top(mul_int))(GenSym(12),(top(box))(Int64,(top(sub_int))(1,1)))))))))))::A
> > n
> > 
> > > y )::Any # line 46:
> > >       update(us::UnsafeSlice{T,N,P<:Ptr{T}},3,(top(getfield))(us::
> > > UnsafeSlice{T,N,P<:Ptr{T}},:start)::Int64)::UnsafeSlice{T,N,P<:Ptr{T}}
> > > 
> > >       6:
> > >       unless
> > > 
> > > (top(box))(Bool,(top(not_int))((top(box))(Bool,(top(not_int))(#s3::Int64
> > > ===
> > 
> > (top(box))(Int64,(top(add_int))((top(getfield))
(GenSym(2),:stop)::Int64,1)):
> > > :Bool)))) goto 5
> > > :
> > >       4:
> > >       3:
> > >       unless
> > > 
> > > (top(box))(Bool,(top(not_int))((top(box))(Bool,(top(not_int))(#s1::Int64
> > > ===
> > 
> > (top(box))(Int64,(top(add_int))((top(getfield))
(GenSym(0),:stop)::Int64,1)):
> > > :Bool)))) goto 2
> > > :
> > >       1:
> > >       0:  # line 49:
> > >       return a::Array{Int64,3}
> > >   
> > >   end::Array{Int64,3}
> > > 
> > > On my terminal the type ::UnsafeSlice{T,N<P<:Ptr{T}} is highlighted in
> > 
> > red
> > 
> > > in this function as is the ::Any on what claims to be 'line 46'.  Is
> > 
> > there
> > 
> > > something about my type that is tripping up the inferencer?
> > > 
> > > Here's the test_alloc.jl script ( I don't normally double space
> > 
> > everything
> > 
> > > but it made the .mem file more readable):
> > > 
> > > using ArrayViews
> > > import Base: size, getindex, setindex!, ndims, start, stride, pointer
> > > 
> > > 
> > > type UnsafeSlice{T,N, P<:Ptr} <: AbstractArray{T,N}
> > > 
> > >     start::Int
> > >     stride::Int
> > >     size::NTuple{N,Int}
> > >     p::P
> > > 
> > > end
> > > 
> > > 
> > > size(s::UnsafeSlice) = s.size
> > > 
> > > 
> > > size(s::UnsafeSlice, i::Int) = s.size[i]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ndims{T,N}(s::UnsafeSlice{T,N}) = N
> > > 
> > > 
> > > getindex(s::UnsafeSlice, i::Int) = unsafe_load(s.p,
> > 
> > s.start+(i-1)*s.stride)
> > 
> > > setindex!(s::UnsafeSlice, x, i::Int) = unsafe_store!(s.p, x,
> > 
> > s.start+(i-1)*s
> > 
> > > .stride)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > function UnsafeSlice(a, slicedim::Int, start=1)
> > > 
> > >     p = pointer(a)
> > >     
> > >     
> > >     str = stride(a, slicedim)
> > >     
> > >     
> > >     UnsafeSlice{eltype(a), ndims(a), typeof(p)}(start, str, size(a),p)
> > > 
> > > end
> > > 
> > > 
> > > function update(a::UnsafeSlice, idx, off)
> > > 
> > >     for i=1:size(a, idx)
> > >     
> > >         a[i] = -10*off+i
> > >     
> > >     end
> > >     
> > >     
> > >     a
> > > 
> > > end
> > > 
> > > 
> > > function setk_UnSafe{T}(a::Array{T,3})
> > > 
> > >     us = UnsafeSlice(a, 3)
> > >     
> > >     
> > >     for j=1:size(a,2),i=1:size(a,1)
> > >     
> > >         us.start = sub2ind(size(a), i, j, 1)
> > >         
> > >         
> > >         update(us, 3, us.start)
> > >     
> > >     end
> > >     
> > >     
> > >     a
> > > 
> > > end
> > > 
> > > 
> > > function test_unsafe(n, time=true)
> > > 
> > >     a = zeros(Int, (320, 320, 320))
> > >     
> > >     
> > >     # warmup
> > >     setk_UnSafe(a);
> > >     
> > >     
> > >     Profile.clear_malloc_data()
> > >     
> > >     
> > >     for i=1:n
> > >     
> > >         setk_UnSafe(a)
> > >     
> > >     end
> > >     
> > >     
> > >     a
> > > 
> > > end
> > > 
> > >  Thanks for taking a look at this.
> > > 
> > > On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 11:14:32 AM UTC-6, Tim Holy wrote:
> > > > Sorry, I didn't notice you'd included the test function.
> > > > 
> > > > What happens if you make
> > > > 
> > > > UnsafeSlice{T,N, P<:Ptr} <: AbstractArray{T,N}
> > > > 
> > > > rather than
> > > > 
> > > > UnsafeSlice{T,N, P<:Ptr} <: AbstractArray
> > > > 
> > > > ?
> > > > 
> > > > Also try @code_warntype on those functions.
> > > > 
> > > > If these don't work, can you paste in a version of your code that
> > 
> > doesn't
> > 
> > > > have
> > > > all the malloc markup?
> > > > 
> > > > --Tim
> > > > 
> > > > On Monday, April 20, 2015 10:05:01 AM Peter Brady wrote:
> > > > > The body of the test_unsafe function is:
> > > > >         - function test_unsafe(n, time=true)
> > > > >         0     a = zeros(Int, (320, 320, 320))
> > > > >         -
> > > > >         -     # warmup
> > > > >         0     setk_UnSafe(a);
> > > > >         -
> > > > >         0     Profile.clear_malloc_data()
> > > > >         -
> > > > >         0     for i=1:n
> > > > >         -
> > > > >         0         setk_UnSafe(a)
> > > > >         -
> > > > >         -     end
> > > > >         -
> > > > >         0     a
> > > > >         - end
> > > > > 
> > > > > So I clear the malloc data after running my expensive function once
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > > > > then run it a second time.  There is no difference in the .mem file
> > 
> > if I
> > 
> > > > > call Profile.clear_malloc_data and then call test_unsafe a second
> > 
> > time.
> > 
> > > > > You are right about the bug but that line of code is never called in
> > > > 
> > > > these
> > > > 
> > > > > tests.  Correcting that line did not change the allocation patterns.
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 10:54:49 AM UTC-6, Tim Holy wrote:
> > > > > > First, you need to run it twice, see
> > 
> > http://docs.julialang.org/en/latest/manual/profile/#memory-allocation-anal
> > 
> > > > > > ysis and the part about clear_malloc_data.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Second, I think you have a bug:
> > > > > >     size(s::UnsafeSlice) = size(s.size)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > should presumably be
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >     size(s::UnsafeSlice) = s.size
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --Tim
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Monday, April 20, 2015 09:35:33 AM Peter Brady wrote:
> > > > > > > Here's the results of running --track-allocation=user
> > 
> > --inline=no on
> > 
> > > > > > 0.4.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  Note that I also deleted all the macros which were affecting
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > > > > reported
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > line numbers.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I have three questions base on the data below:
> > > > > > > 1.  Why is the call to size which indexes into a tuple so
> > 
> > expensive
> > 
> > > > > > > 2.  Why is setindex! so expensive?
> > > > > > > 3.  Why is it so expensive to update the 'start' attribute of my
> > > > > > > unsafeslice?
> > > > > > > Does anyone have any answers or any suggestions on what tools to
> > 
> > use
> > 
> > > > to
> > > > 
> > > > > > > find the answers?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Here's my session:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > $ ~/gitrepos/julia0.4/julia --track-allocation=user --inline=no
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >                _
> > > > > > >    
> > > > > > >    _       _ _(_)_     |  A fresh approach to technical
> > 
> > computing
> > 
> > > > > > >   (_)     | (_) (_)    |  Documentation:
> > http://docs.julialang.org
> > 
> > > > > > >    _ _   _| |_  __ _   |  Type "help()" for help.
> > > > > > >    
> > > > > > >   | | | | | | |/ _` |  |
> > > > > > >   | | |
> > > > > > >   | | |_| | | | (_| |  |  Version 0.4.0-dev+4385 (2015-04-20
> > 
> > 14:52
> > 
> > > > UTC)
> > > > 
> > > > > > >  _/ |\__'_|_|_|\__'_|  |  Commit 5499882 (0 days old master)
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > |__/                   |  x86_64-redhat-linux
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > julia> include("test_alloc.jl")
> > > > > > > test_unsafe (generic function with 2 methods)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > julia> test_unsafe(1);
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > julia>
> > > > > > > [ptb@cyrus julia]$
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > And the output
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >        - using ArrayViews
> > > > > > >        
> > > > > > >         - import Base: size, getindex, setindex!, ndims, start,
> > > > 
> > > > stride,
> > > > 
> > > > > > > pointer
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         - type UnsafeSlice{T,N, P<:Ptr} <: AbstractArray
> > > > > > >         -     start::Int
> > > > > > >         -     stride::Int
> > > > > > >         -     size::NTuple{N,Int}
> > > > > > >         -     p::P
> > > > > > >         - end
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         - size(s::UnsafeSlice) = size(s.size)
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >   7356448 size(s::UnsafeSlice, i::Int) = s.size[i]
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         - ndims{T,N}(s::UnsafeSlice{T,N}) = N
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         - getindex(s::UnsafeSlice, i::Int) = unsafe_load(s.p,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > s.start+(i-1)*
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > s.stride)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 1048559648 setindex!(s::UnsafeSlice, x, i::Int) =
> > 
> > unsafe_store!(s.p,
> > 
> > > > x,
> > > > 
> > > > > > s.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > start+(i-1)*s.stride)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         - function UnsafeSlice(a, slicedim::Int, start=1)
> > > > > > >         0     p = pointer(a)
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         0     str = stride(a, slicedim)
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >       
> > > > > > >       368     UnsafeSlice{eltype(a), ndims(a), typeof(p)}(start,
> > > > 
> > > > str,
> > > > 
> > > > > > size(a
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ),p)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >         - end
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         - function update(a::UnsafeSlice, idx, off)
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         0     for i=1:size(a, idx)
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         0         a[i] = -10*off+i
> > > > > > >         -     end
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         0     a
> > > > > > >         - end
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         - function setk_UnSafe{T}(a::Array{T,3})
> > > > > > >         0     us = UnsafeSlice(a, 3)
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         0     for j=1:size(a,2),i=1:size(a,1)
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >  14712896         us.start = sub2ind(size(a), i, j, 1)
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         0         update(us, 3, us.start)
> > > > > > >         -     end
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         0     a
> > > > > > >         - end
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         - function test_unsafe(n, time=true)
> > > > > > >         0     a = zeros(Int, (320, 320, 320))
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         -     # warmup
> > > > > > >         0     setk_UnSafe(a);
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         0     Profile.clear_malloc_data()
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         0     for i=1:n
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         0         setk_UnSafe(a)
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         -     end
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > >         0     a
> > > > > > >         - end
> > > > > > >         -
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 9:04:41 AM UTC-6, Peter Brady
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Accidentally hit reply instead of reply-all. Sorry for the
> > 
> > double
> > 
> > > > > > post.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Ran my script in 0.4 and got these results...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > julia> test_all(5)
> > > > > > > > test_stride
> > > > > > > > elapsed time: 2.008043041 seconds (0 bytes allocated)
> > > > > > > > test_view
> > > > > > > > elapsed time: 8.871387399 seconds (42 MB allocated, 0.23% gc
> > 
> > time
> > 
> > > > in 2
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > pauses with 1 full sweep)
> > > > > > > > test_unsafe
> > > > > > > > elapsed time: 2.308598574 seconds (46 MB allocated, 0.68% gc
> > 
> > time
> > 
> > > > in 2
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > pauses with 1 full sweep)
> > > > > > > > test_unsafeview
> > > > > > > > elapsed time: 9.106651158 seconds (0 bytes allocated)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > julia> test_all(10)
> > > > > > > > test_stride
> > > > > > > > elapsed time: 4.012240175 seconds (0 bytes allocated)
> > > > > > > > test_view
> > > > > > > > elapsed time: 18.085514211 seconds (85 MB allocated, 0.16% gc
> > 
> > time
> > 
> > > > in
> > > > 
> > > > > > 4
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > pauses with 1 full sweep)
> > > > > > > > test_unsafe
> > > > > > > > elapsed time: 4.477773618 seconds (93 MB allocated, 1.12% gc
> > 
> > time
> > 
> > > > in 4
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > pauses with 1 full sweep)
> > > > > > > > test_unsafeview
> > > > > > > > elapsed time: 18.146163969 seconds (0 bytes allocated)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So the allocation for the new unsafeview has been reduced to
> > 
> > zero
> > 
> > > > but
> > > > 
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > has become slower than the regular view.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Perhaps the compiler optimizations that have been discussed
> > 
> > here
> > 
> > > > are
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > occuring since the only occurence of 'unsafeview' is the
> > 
> > argument
> > 
> > > > to a
> > > > 
> > > > > > > > function.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 12:57 AM, René Donner <[email protected]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > <javascript:>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> What about something like unsafe_updateview!(view,
> > 
> > indices...) ?
> > 
> > > > > > > >> It could be used like this (pseudocode):
> > > > > > > >>   view = unsafe_view(data, 1, 1, :)  # to construct /
> > 
> > allocate
> > 
> > > > > > > >>   for i in ..., j in ...
> > > > > > > >>   
> > > > > > > >>     unsafe_updateview!(view, i, j, :)
> > > > > > > >>     # use view
> > > > > > > >>   
> > > > > > > >>   end
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> In the trivial case of unsafe_view(data, :, :, i) this would
> > 
> > boil
> > 
> > > > > > down to
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> a single pointer update. Of course passing around these views
> > > > 
> > > > outside
> > > > 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> their scope is rather discouraged. I use this pattern a lot
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > > > it
> > > > 
> > > > > > proved
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> to be very handy / fast.
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> Am 20.04.2015 um 02:08 schrieb Dahua Lin <[email protected]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > <javascript:>>:
> > > > > > > >> > My benchmark shows that element indexing has been as fast
> > 
> > as it
> > 
> > > > can
> > > > 
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> for array views (or subarrays in Julia 0.4).
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> > Now the problem is actually the construction of
> > > > 
> > > > views/subarrays. To
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> optimize the overhead of this part, the compiler may need to
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > introduce
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> additional optimization.
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> > Dahua
> > > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > > >> > On Monday, April 20, 2015 at 6:39:35 AM UTC+8, Sebastian
> > 
> > Good
> > 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > —track-allocation still requires guesswork, as
> > 
> > optimizations
> > 
> > > > can
> > > > 
> > > > > > move
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> the allocation to a different place than you would expect.
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> > On April 19, 2015 at 4:36:19 PM, Peter Brady (
> > > > 
> > > > [email protected])
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> So I discovered the --track-allocation option and now I am
> > > > 
> > > > really
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> confused:
> > > > > > > >> >> Here's my session:
> > > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> $ julia --track-allocation=all
> > > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > > >> >>                _
> > > > > > > >> >>    
> > > > > > > >> >>    _       _ _(_)_     |  A fresh approach to technical
> > > > 
> > > > computing
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >>   (_)     | (_) (_)    |  Documentation:
> > > > http://docs.julialang.org
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >>    _ _   _| |_  __ _   |  Type "help()" for help.
> > > > > > > >> >>    
> > > > > > > >> >>   | | | | | | |/ _` |  |
> > > > > > > >> >>   | | |
> > > > > > > >> >>   | | |_| | | | (_| |  |  Version 0.3.8-pre+13 (2015-04-17
> > > > 
> > > > 18:08
> > > > 
> > > > > > UTC)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >>  _/ |\__'_|_|_|\__'_|  |  Commit 0df962d* (2 days old
> > > > 
> > > > release-0.3)
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> |__/                   |  x86_64-redhat-linux
> > > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> julia> include("test.jl")
> > > > > > > >> >> test_all (generic function with 1 method)
> > > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> julia> test_unsafe(5)
> > > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> And here's the relevant part of the resulting test.jl.mem
> > > > 
> > > > file.
> > > > 
> > > > > >  Note
> > > > > >  
> > > > > > > >> that I commented out some calls to 'size' and replaced with
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > > > > > >> appropriate
> > > > > > > >> hard-coded values but the resulting allocation is the same...
> > 
> > Can
> > 
> > > > > > anyone
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> shed some light on this while I wait for 0.4 to compile?
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >>         - function update(a::AbstractArray, idx, off)
> > > > > > > >> >>   
> > > > > > > >> >>   8151120     for i=1:320 #size(a, idx)
> > > > > > > >> >>   
> > > > > > > >> >>         0         a[i] = -10*off+i
> > > > > > > >> >>         -     end
> > > > > > > >> >>         0     a
> > > > > > > >> >>         - end
> > > > > > > >> >>         -
> > > > > > > >> >>        
> > > > > > > >> >>        - function setk_UnSafe{T}(a::Array{T,3})
> > > > > > > >> >>       
> > > > > > > >> >>       760     us = UnsafeSlice(a, 3)
> > > > > > > >> >>       
> > > > > > > >> >>         0     for j=1:size(a,2),i=1:size(a,1)
> > > > > > > >> >>   
> > > > > > > >> >>   8151120         us.start = (j-1)*320+i #size(a,1)+i
> > > > > > > >> >>   
> > > > > > > >> >>         -         #off = sub2ind(size(a), i, j, 1)
> > > > > > > >> >>         0         update(us, 3, us.start)
> > > > > > > >> >>         -     end
> > > > > > > >> >>         0     a
> > > > > > > >> >>         - end
> > > > > > > >> >>         - function test_unsafe(n)
> > > > > > > >> >>         0     a = zeros(Int, (320, 320, 320))
> > > > > > > >> >>         -     # warmup
> > > > > > > >> >>         0     setk_UnSafe(a);
> > > > > > > >> >>         0     clear_malloc_data()
> > > > > > > >> >>         -     #@time (
> > > > > > > >> >>         0     for i=1:n; setk_UnSafe(a); end
> > > > > > > >> >>         - end
> > > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 2:21:56 PM UTC-6, Peter Brady
> > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> @Dahua, thanks for adding an unsafeview!  I appreciate how
> > > > 
> > > > quickly
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> this community responds.
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> I've added the following function to my test.jl script
> > > > > > > >> >> function setk_unsafeview{T}(a::Array{T,3})
> > > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > > >> >>     for j=1:size(a,2),i=1:size(a,1)
> > > > > > > >> >>     
> > > > > > > >> >>         off = sub2ind(size(a), i, j, 1)
> > > > > > > >> >>         update(unsafe_view(a, i, j, :), 3, off)
> > > > > > > >> >>     
> > > > > > > >> >>     end
> > > > > > > >> >>     a
> > > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> end
> > > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > > >> >>  But I'm not seeing the large increase in performance I
> > 
> > was
> > 
> > > > > > > >> expecting.  My timings are now
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> julia> test_all(5);
> > > > > > > >> >> test_stride
> > > > > > > >> >> elapsed time: 2.156173128 seconds (0 bytes allocated)
> > > > > > > >> >> test_view
> > > > > > > >> >> elapsed time: 9.30964534 seconds (94208000 bytes
> > 
> > allocated,
> > 
> > > > 0.47%
> > > > 
> > > > > > gc
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> time)
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> test_unsafe
> > > > > > > >> >> elapsed time: 2.169307471 seconds (16303000 bytes
> > 
> > allocated)
> > 
> > > > > > > >> >> test_unsafeview
> > > > > > > >> >> elapsed time: 8.955876793 seconds (90112000 bytes
> > 
> > allocated,
> > 
> > > > 0.41%
> > > > 
> > > > > > gc
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> time)
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> To be fair, I am cheating a bit with my custom
> > 
> > 'UnsafeSlice'
> > 
> > > > since
> > > > 
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> make only one instance and simply update the offset on each
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > iteration.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> If
> > > > > > > >> I make it immutable and create a new instance on every
> > 
> > iteration
> > 
> > > > (as
> > > > 
> > > > > > I do
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> for the view and unsafeview), things slow down a little and
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > > > > > >> allocation
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> goes south:
> > > > > > > >> >> julia> test_all(5);
> > > > > > > >> >> test_stride
> > > > > > > >> >> elapsed time: 2.159909265 seconds (0 bytes allocated)
> > > > > > > >> >> test_view
> > > > > > > >> >> elapsed time: 9.029025282 seconds (94208000 bytes
> > 
> > allocated,
> > 
> > > > 0.43%
> > > > 
> > > > > > gc
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> time)
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> test_unsafe
> > > > > > > >> >> elapsed time: 2.621667854 seconds (114606240 bytes
> > 
> > allocated,
> > 
> > > > > > 2.41% gc
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> time)
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> test_unsafeview
> > > > > > > >> >> elapsed time: 8.888434466 seconds (90112000 bytes
> > 
> > allocated,
> > 
> > > > 0.44%
> > > > 
> > > > > > gc
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> time)
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> These are all with 0.3.8-pre.  I'll try compiling master
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > > > see
> > > > 
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> happens.  I'm still confused about why allocating a single
> > 
> > type
> > 
> > > > with
> > > > 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> pointer, 2 ints and a tuple costs so much memory though.
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 at 11:38:17 AM UTC-6, Tim Holy
> > > > 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> It's not just escape analysis, as this (new) issue
> > > > 
> > > > demonstrates:
> > > > > > > >> >> https://github.com/JuliaLang/julia/issues/10899
> > > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> --Tim
> > > > > > > >> >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> On Sunday, April 19, 2015 12:33:51 PM Sebastian Good
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> > Their size seems much decreased. I’d imagine to totally
> > > > 
> > > > avoid
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> allocation in
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > this benchmark requires an optimization that really has
> > > > 
> > > > nothing
> > > > 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> do with
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > subarrays per se. You’d have to do an escape analysis
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > > > see
> > > > 
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> Aj never
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > left sumcols. Not easy in practice, since it’s passed to
> > > > 
> > > > slice
> > > > 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> length,
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > and you’d have to make sure they didn’t squirrel it away
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > > > pass
> > > > 
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> on to
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > someone else. Then you could stack allocate it, or even
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > destructure
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> it into
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > a bunch of scalar mutations on the stack. After
> > 
> > eliminating
> > 
> > > > dead
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> code,
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > you’d end up with a no-allocation loop much like you’d
> > 
> > write
> > 
> > > > by
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> hand. This
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > sort of optimization seems to be quite tricky for
> > 
> > compilers
> > 
> > > > to
> > > > 
> > > > > > pull
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> off,
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > but it’s a common pattern in numerical code.
> > > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > In Julia is such cleverness left entirely to LLVM, or
> > 
> > are
> > 
> > > > there
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> optimization
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > passes in Julia itself? On April 19, 2015 at 6:49:21 AM,
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > > > > > Holy
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > ([email protected]) wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > Sorry to be slow to chime in here, but the tuple
> > 
> > overhaul
> > 
> > > > has
> > > > 
> > > > > > landed
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > they are still not zero-cost:
> > > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > function sumcols(A)
> > > > > > > >> >> > s = 0.0
> > > > > > > >> >> > for j = 1:size(A,2)
> > > > > > > >> >> > Aj = slice(A, :, j)
> > > > > > > >> >> > for i = 1:length(Aj)
> > > > > > > >> >> > s += Aj[i]
> > > > > > > >> >> > end
> > > > > > > >> >> > end
> > > > > > > >> >> > s
> > > > > > > >> >> > end
> > > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > Even in the latest 0.4, this still allocates memory. On
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> hand,
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > while SubArrays allocate nearly 2x more memory than
> > > > 
> > > > ArrayViews,
> > > > 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> speed
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > of the two (replacing `slice` with `view` above) is, for
> > 
> > me,
> > 
> > > > > > nearly
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > identical.
> > > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > --Tim
> > > > > > > >> >> > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > On Friday, April 17, 2015 08:30:27 PM Sebastian Good
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> > > This was discussed a few weeks ago
> > > > 
> > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/julia-users/IxrvV8ABZoQ/uWZu5-IB3McJ
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > I think the bottom line is that the current
> > 
> > implementation
> > 
> > > > > > > >> *should* be
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > 'zero-cost' once a set of planned improvements and
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > optimizations
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> take
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > place. One of the key ones is a tuple overhaul.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > Fair to say it can never be 'zero' cost since there is
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > different
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> inherent
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > overhead depending on the type of subarray, e.g.
> > 
> > offset,
> > 
> > > > > > slice,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > re-dimension, etc. however the implementation is quite
> > > > 
> > > > clever
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > about
> > > > > > > >> >> > > allowing specialization of those.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > In a common case (e.g. a constant offset or simple
> > 
> > stride)
> > 
> > > > my
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > understanding
> > > > > > > >> >> > > is that the structure will be type-specialized and
> > 
> > likely
> > 
> > > > > > stack
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> allocated
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > in many cases, reducing to what you'd write by hand.
> > 
> > At
> > 
> > > > least
> > > > 
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> is what
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > they're after.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 4:24:14 PM UTC-4, Peter
> > 
> > Brady
> > 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > Thanks for the links. I'll check out ArrayViews as
> > 
> > it
> > 
> > > > looks
> > > > 
> > > > > > like
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> what I
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > was going to do manually without wrapping it in a
> > 
> > type.
> > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > By semi-dim agnostic I meant that the differencing
> > > > 
> > > > algorithm
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> itself only
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > cares about one dimension but that dimension is
> > > > 
> > > > different
> > > > 
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> different
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > directions. Only a few toplevel routines actually
> > 
> > need
> > 
> > > > to
> > > > 
> > > > > > know
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> about the
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > dimensionality of the problem.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > > On Friday, April 17, 2015 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-6, René
> > > > 
> > > > Donner
> > > > 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> As far as I have measured it sub in 0.4 is still
> > 
> > not
> > 
> > > > cheap,
> > > > 
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> it
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> provides the flexibility to deal with all kinds of
> > > > 
> > > > strides
> > > > 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> offsets,
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> and
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> the view object itself thus has a certain size. See
> > 
> > https://github.com/rened/FunctionalData.jl#efficiency
> > 
> > > > for
> > > > 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> simple
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> analysis, where the speed is mostly dominated by
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > > speed
> > > > 
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> "sub-view" mechanism.
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> To get faster views which require strides etc you
> > 
> > can
> > 
> > > > try
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> https://github.com/JuliaLang/ArrayViews.jl
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> What do you mean by semi-dim agnostic? In case you
> > 
> > only
> > 
> > > > > > need
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> indexing
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> along the last dimension (like a[:,:,i] and
> > 
> > a[:,:,:,i])
> > 
> > > > you
> > > > 
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> use
> > > > 
> > > > https://github.com/rened/FunctionalData.jl#efficient-views-details
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> which uses normal DenseArrays and simple pointer
> > > > 
> > > > updates
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> internally. It
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> can also update a view in-place, by just
> > 
> > incrementing
> > 
> > > > the
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> pointer.
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> Am 17.04.2015 um 21:48 schrieb Peter Brady <
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [email protected]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> > Inorder to write some differencing algorithms in
> > 
> > a
> > 
> > > > > > > >> semi-dimensional
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> agnostic manner the code I've written makes heavy
> > 
> > use
> > 
> > > > of
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> subarrays
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> which
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> turn out to be rather costly. I've noticed some
> > 
> > posts
> > 
> > > > on
> > > > 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> cost of
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> subarrays here and that things will be better in
> > 
> > 0.4.
> > 
> > > > Can
> > > > 
> > > > > > > >> someone
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> comment
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> on how much better? Would subarray (or anything
> > 
> > like
> > 
> > > > it) be
> > > > 
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> par with
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> simply passing an offset and stride (constant) and
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > computing
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >> the index
> > > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > > >> >> > > >> myself? I'm currently using the 0.3 release branch.

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