Paul,

   The issue we are having with DataStore is that precisely what you
are referring to.  Each layer is trying to do its own connection in a
separate thread to the server and Oracle is running out of
connections.  Some kind of connection pooling would probably solve
this problem, but we haven't been focused on it for a while.  It would
probably require some changes to the DataStore class and I wasn't sure
Vivid Solutions was finished with it yet.

  The connection information is persisted in workbench-state.xml
through the standard workbench blackboard method.

  Regarding the metadata list of layers concept, I basically felt that
that was a .jmp file and didn't see a need to reinvent it.  Merge
Task/Archive just allows you to open multiple task files in the same
project.

regards,
Larry
On 5/29/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Hi Larry,
>
>  I've just downloaded SkyJump and seen how the DataStores work and it looks
> as if it is roughly what I'm looking for.
>
>  I notice that when you save the Project to a .jmp file that the connection
> information is duplicated for each layer. Does this mean that each layer
> will connect directly to the database or do all the layers share a
> connection from the connection manager. What would be nice is if this
> information could be stored only once and referenced from the other layers.
>
>  I see that the connection manager is preserved in the SkyJUMP installation,
> where is this information stored in a windows install.
>
>  Any idea when these plug-ins will be rolled into the OpenJUMP release I see
> there is a difference in the version they have.
>
>  For the file based concepts I was talking about, the list of layers is
> defined in the metadata file so what I'd want to do is point it at the
> directory then my plugin would generate the list of layers from the metadata
> instead of the files. So this is slightly different from the usual just
> selecting a bunch of files from a directory.
>
>  I'm going to for now do an import of the "zip" based file type I have using
> your MergeProjectPlugin as an example, ultimately I'd like to be able to
> have it read directly from the file, but I think that may require some extra
> resource management.
>
>  Cheers,
>  Paul
>
>
>
>  Larry Becker wrote:
>  Hi Paul,
>
>  As usual, you are interested in many of the same things that I am.
> The single DataSource multiple layer concept is currently only
> implemented in WMS and MrSID (which is based on WMSLayer) and you
> actually end up with only a single layer in JUMP, but you can manage
> it as multiples.
>
>  SkyJUMP has implemented the zip file with multiple layers as Merge
> Task/Archive. It works much as you propose and even supports writing
> back to the zip file with Save Selected Datasets. Loading multiple
> files at one time is already supported in JUMP unless I don't
> understand your concept.
>
>  For databases we also have ArcSDE support which allows browsing and
> loading multiple layers at once.
>
> We also support the DataStore concept in JUMP, but have had
> concurrency issues with it.
>
> regards,
> Larry
>
> On 5/29/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  All,
>
> I've been looking at the existing database and file plugins and the
> com.vividsolutions.jump.io.datasource.DataSource class and
> from what I
> can tell there is a one to one relationship between a layer and a data
> source.
>
> What I would like to do for some of the file and database based data
> sources is to have the concept of a DataSource that can contain many
> different layers. Within a project you would be able to select which
> layers you wanted to view from that data source.
>
> In the database world this concept would relate to having a connection
> to the data base using a java.sql.Connection. When adding the database
> connection to a project there would be a UI that would list the
> available layers (database tables) and the user could select which
> layers they wish to view. This compares to the current PostGIS plug-in
> where you have to manually enter the connection and table details for
> each layer.
>
> When the project is closed then the "connection" must also be closed.
>
> In the Jump project file the "connection" parameters would be stored
> once, then the data sources used for each layer would reference the
> "connection" and have a different query for each table.
>
> Now if we look at a file based example, I have a file format which is
> basically a zip file that contains one file for each layer along with
> some metadata files. I would like to be able to open the zip file and
> create a layer for each of the layers in the zip file. To do this I
> would extract the file to the temp directory and as required load the
> data from the individual files in the temp directory. Then when you
> close the project the "connection" is closed by deleting the temporary
> files.
>
> Another file based example would be to open a directory of files,
> loading each layer file in that directory, this is basically the same as
> the zip file idea but without the temporary files.
>
> In both the file cases once the file is loaded the first time the user
> can select which of the layers to view.
>
> So the question is, does any of the existing functionality in JUMP allow
> for multi-layer data sources? If not I'm going to do some prototyping
> for the file format I have and then share this with the group for
> comment to see if it would be useful elsewhere.
>
> After that I have an interest in Oracle connections so would need to do
> the same kind of thing there.
>
> One other question, where would I find the code for writing out the
> project .jmp XML files as I'd need to add the "connection" definitions
> to this.
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
>
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