Hi

>Strategically one of *JUMP weaknesses is the existence of so many forks.
>For volunteers as well as for the commercial and the scientific guys
>a common basis is needed. Till now most of the real development has been
>done in the forks/flavors and ported back to OpenJUMP. I don't know
>if this is the right way to go in the long term. You will attract more
>people if OJ will get a dynamic of its own. I see potential here ...
>  
>
Completely agree with your analyse. And very pleased to see your help to 
reverse the tendency :-) .
Concentrating on OpenJUMP is the only way to attract more users and more 
developpers, which will benefit every one.

Michaël

>My 2 cents,
>Sascha
>
>Sunburned Surveyor schrieb:
>  
>
>>Sascha,
>>
>>Please see my comments below.
>>
>>Sascha wrote: "I will suspend my further development on this stuff till
>>the unstable/development branch comes into existence.
>>I don't want to commit it to the stable branch, because there
>>are questions to talk about, improving the GUI e.g. If
>>several mime-types are available I don't think that it
>>is a bright idea to select it by internal 'magic'."
>>
>>I e-mailed Stefan about the best place for an unstable branch of
>>OpenJUMP's code base. When we have talked about it and made a decision
>>I will report back to the list. If we don't create an unstable branch
>>in the OpenJUMP CVS at the JPP SourceForge site then we will create
>>one in the SVN repository at the SurveyOS SourceForge site.
>>
>>As soon as the decision has been made I will make the necessary
>>changes and/or additions to the selected repository and will post the
>>access information to this mailing list.
>>
>>You wrote: "Please let me, how and when I should proceed. I do
>>this WMS stuff in my free time, so I have no time to
>>waste it for things that went to the nirvana of
>>cool but unpublished software. I've done to much of this
>>in the past."
>>
>>I repsect this decision. Please give me a few days to get this taken
>>care of, and then your work on WMS can proceed. We really appreciate
>>any "volunteer" effort that is put in by the members of our community
>>and I think you are already proving to be a valuable member of that
>>community. (Anyone that can hold his own during a discussion of JUMP
>>source code with Larry Becker has my vote.) :]
>>
>>The Sunburned Surveyor
>>
>>
>>On 6/1/07, Sascha L. Teichmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Hi together,
>>>
>>>To give a little status report about my recent improvements
>>>of the WMS layer stuff:
>>>
>>>- Introduction of a factory model that handles different
>>> formats (mime-types) more clearly and abstract.
>>> This helps to handle the result streams coming from
>>> the HTTP responses. e.g images/svg+xml needs some XML parsing,
>>> images/png can be processed by javax.imageio.ImageIO
>>>
>>>- Usage of javax.imageio.ImageIO in case of bitmap images.
>>> If things like JAI ImageIO is installed a wider range
>>> of bitmap types are supported.
>>>
>>>- Usage of the Apache Common's HttpClient [1].
>>> This enables better HTTP handling: persistent
>>> connections, queueing, limiting number of connections
>>> to servers, performing better with multiple Threads
>>> (pooling) and so on.
>>> It also enables us to use authentication, SSL, proxies.
>>> This may be of interest when connecting to protected servers.
>>>
>>>I will suspend my further development on this stuff till
>>>the unstable/development branch comes into existence.
>>>I don't want to commit it to the stable branch, because there
>>>are questions to talk about, improving the GUI e.g. If
>>>several mime-types are available I don't think that it
>>>is a bright idea to select it by internal 'magic'.
>>>
>>>Please let me, how and when I should proceed. I do
>>>this WMS stuff in my free time, so I have no time to
>>>waste it for things that went to the nirvana of
>>>cool but unpublished software. I've done to much of this
>>>in the past.
>>>
>>>Kind regards,
>>>Sascha
>>>
>>>[1] http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Sunburned Surveyor schrieb:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Sascha,
>>>>
>>>>I agree with your comments. Let me talk to Stefan about this. I think
>>>>creating a development branch of the CVS shouldn't be too much of a
>>>>problem. I don't know a lot about CVS, but as long as it was fairly
>>>>simple to move things from the unstable branch to the stable branch I
>>>>think this would be a great idea.
>>>>
>>>>The Sunburned Surveyor
>>>>
>>>>On 5/29/07, Sascha L. Teichmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>SS,
>>>>>
>>>>>Sunburned Surveyor schrieb:
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>[...]
>>>>>>I think we would definitely be interested in having the ability to
>>>>>>render WMS layers as from SVG instead of as an image in OpenJUMP.
>>>>>>However, I think we might benefit from the creation of an "unstable"
>>>>>>or development branch in the OpenJUMP CVS were we can commit these
>>>>>>rather rapid changes. Stefan and I discussed this a little bit before,
>>>>>>but never moved on it.
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>I _really_ would appreciate such a branch. Look at the concrete
>>>>>WMS/SVG case. I've done it now. Where should I put it? To the
>>>>>one and only stable branch? This not a good idea. Not because
>>>>>it does not work, but it surely needs a final touch and some
>>>>>discussions. At the moment there is no way in the WMS GUI panel
>>>>>to choose the preferred MIME type of the WMS response. There
>>>>>is some internal guessing about going on which in my eyes
>>>>>needs more user interaction.
>>>>>But we can't discuss this detail before we all aren't able to see
>>>>>the concrete problem in form of a running program.
>>>>>On the other hand I can work on a solution all by myself and
>>>>>send a big patch after a while. This is not the community
>>>>>way of doing software development...
>>>>>
>>>>>- Sascha
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