I think SIGLE did some work with image support before. I wonder if
they can comment on this.

I also wonder what the UDig team is using for image support. Maybe
I'll bounce an e-mail of their list to see if I can find out. I always
hate moving away from "pure Java" solutions.

The Sunburned Surveyor

On 8/17/07, Larry Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
>  Now that you mention it, I was remembering incorrectly.  The MrSID
> plugin does ues a command line tool and not JNI.  This has the
> advantage of spawning a new process that doesn't affect the Java
> process memory.
>
> Larry
>
> On 8/17/07, Paul Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > There is also another option that using a jni interface to an image
> > library. You can always execute a command line tool which you use to
> > create a temporary file for the resize and crop and then load that.
> >
> > I switched my photo web site code to do this as I was having memory and
> > quality problems with JAI.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Larry Becker wrote:
> > > This whole issue of support for large image sizes is the reason that
> > > SkyJUMP doesn't have Image Layers yet.  It seems to open up a can of
> > > worms.  If you need jai to process images, IMHO you are already in
> > > (memory) trouble.  Also, some formats, such as GeoTIFF are simply to
> > > complex to ever get working reliably for all variations.  As with the
> > > discussions of vector formats, it all boils down to the fact that
> > > there isn't one single good (and open) file format that well
> > > supported.
> > >
> > > I think that perhaps the best way to handle image formats (and perhaps
> > > some other issues too) is to bite the bullet and add a JNI interface
> > > to gdal.  I can imagine modifying the MrSID plugin (which uses JNI) to
> > > do this.  I believe there are versions of gdal for most platforms.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Larry
> > >
> > > On 8/17/07, Rahkonen Jukka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> It really seems to be due to the size. I made small versions (1000 by 
> > >> 1000 pixels) of the png and jpg images, and they do work.  They also 
> > >> seem to accept both .tfw named world files and those named according to 
> > >> image format (jgw/pgw).  That's good.
> > >>
> > >> User should get some informative warning about file exceeding the size 
> > >> limits, perhaps with a hint to use tiff of ecw formats instead for 
> > >> bigger images.
> > >>
> > >> By the way, those interested in trying how OpenJUMP performs with ecw 
> > >> can download wonderful images to play with from geotorrent.org. For 
> > >> example 1.8 gigabyte europe_landsat742 image covering almost whole 
> > >> Europe, despite half of Finland :( , works very well and consumes just 
> > >> few tens of megabytes of OpenJUMP memory.  Image dimensions totals 
> > >> 141970 by 141970 pixels.  There are other good images as well, and they 
> > >> are free for any use.
> > >>
> > >> -Jukka-
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
> > >>> Lähettäjä: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>> Puolesta Stefan Steiniger
> > >>> Lähetetty: 17. elokuuta 2007 14:34
> > >>> Vastaanottaja: List for discussion of JPP development and use.
> > >>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] OJN 1.2D: Add Image Layer
> > >>>
> > >>> btw.. if it does not load..
> > >>> can it be a image size problem?
> > >>>
> > >>> because 9996x9996 px is shown by Adobe Photoshop as file with
> > >>> 285MB size in memory (stored as jpg: 15MB - of course
> > >>> depending on the image packability itself)
> > >>>
> > >>> If i try to load the file with OpenJUMP (java memory option
> > >>> -Xmx256M)..
> > >>> then it is not shown as well.. without any error message
> > >>>
> > >>> don't know how diffcult it is to obtain at least a message
> > >>> from jai that the file is to large.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> stefan
> > >>>
> > >>> Rahkonen Jukka schrieb:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I made a quick test with one 9996 by 9996 pixel colour
> > >>>>
> > >>> image. The original is band interleaved geotiff. I converted
> > >>> it with gdal_translate to following formats:
> > >>>
> > >>>> - png (gdal_translate -of PNG jumptest.tif jumptest.png)
> > >>>> - jpeg (gdal_translate -of jpeg jumptest.tif jumptest.jpg)
> > >>>> - ecw (gdal_translate -of ECW -co LARGE_OK=YES jumptest.tif
> > >>>>
> > >>> jumptest.ecw)
> > >>>
> > >>>> - pixel interleaved geotiff (gdal_translate -of GTiff -co
> > >>>>
> > >>> interleave=pixel jumptest.tif jumptest_pixel_int.tif)
> > >>>
> > >>>> I created also ESRI world file (.tfw) and copied it for
> > >>>>
> > >>> jpeg and png formats as .jgw and .pgw, respectively.
> > >>>
> > >>>> Results:
> > >>>> - band interleaved tiff does not show
> > >>>> - jpeg does not show
> > >>>> - png does not show
> > >>>> - pixel interleaved tiff shows OK
> > >>>> - ecw shows OK
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Read error with band interleaved tiffs is quite usual, and
> > >>>>
> > >>> a few weeks ago GDAL default was changed to pixel interleave.
> > >>> There must be another reason for problems with jpeg and png.
> > >>>
> > >>>> Right click - Properties on the failed jpeg and png image
> > >>>>
> > >>> layer shows this error:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Javax.media.jai.util.ImagingException: All factories fail
> > >>>>
> > >>> for the operation "FileLoad"
> > >>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Jukka-
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
> > >>>>> Lähettäjä: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>>> Puolesta Uwe Dalluege
> > >>>>> Lähetetty: 17. elokuuta 2007 11:48
> > >>>>> Vastaanottaja: Devel Jump
> > >>>>> Aihe: [JPP-Devel] OJN 1.2D: Add Image Layer
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> when I load a TIFF file which has a worldfile with Layer>Add
> > >>>>> Image Layer a new layer appears but nothing happens (no
> > >>>>> errormessage and no image)!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Running OpenJUMPNight 1.2D with Eclipse I see the error:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.JUMPException: Neither geotiff tags
> > >>>>> nor valid worldfile found.
> > >>>>> This is not a valid GeoTIFF file.
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.imagery.geotiff.GeoTIFFImage
> > >>>>> .init(GeoTIFFImage.java:72)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.imagery.geotiff.GeoTIFFImage
> > >>>>> .<init>(GeoTIFFImage.java:56)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.imagery.geotiff.GeoTIFFImage
> > >>>>> Factory.createImage(GeoTIFFImageFactory.java:53)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.imagery.ImageryLayerDataset.
> > >>>>> createImage(ImageryLayerDataset.java:76)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.imagery.ImageFeatu
> > >>>>> reCreator.createFeature(ImageFeatureCreator.java:174)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.imagery.ImageFeatu
> > >>>>> reCreator.access$0(ImageFeatureCreator.java:159)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.imagery.ImageFeatu
> > >>>>> reCreator$1.yield(ImageFeatureCreator.java:153)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.util.CollectionUtil.collect(Collection
> > >>>>> Util.java:298)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.imagery.ImageFeatu
> > >>>>> reCreator.createFeatures(ImageFeatureCreator.java:148)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.imagery.ImageFeatu
> > >>>>> reCreator.getImages(ImageFeatureCreator.java:79)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.imagery.AddImageLa
> > >>>>> yerPlugIn.execute(AddImageLayerPlugIn.java:34)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.plugin.AbstractPlugIn$1.acti
> > >>>>> onPerformed(AbstractPlugIn.java:130)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>>
> > >>> javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
> > >>>
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at javax.swing.AbstractButton.doClick(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>>
> > >>> javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI.doClick(Unknown Source)
> > >>>
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicMenuItemUI$Handler.mouseReleased(U
> > >>>>> nknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
> > >>>
> > >>>>>     at
> > >>>>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>     at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Uwe
> > >>>>>
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