Hi,

Erwan,
>
> Is there any chance this page exists in English?:



http://www.projet-sigle.org/spip.php?article35




Currently, no.  But after triangulation API yes. Maybe in october-november.
The API will be finished in one month.

If not, perhaps you could provide a link to the source code for Chris
> and I? It would be great to build on any work that has already been
> done on TIN support by you and your team.


Yes I think so.

R1.

The Sunburned Surveyor
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:49 AM, Stefan Steiniger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > oh yes.. I forgot Erwans work on the TANATO plugin.
> >
> > http://www.projet-sigle.org/spip.php?rubrique17
> >
> > Unfortunately Erwan did not wrote who is doing the work at IRSTV
> > (http://orbisgis.cerma.archi.fr/?page_id=40)
> > I hope it is not confusing, so we need to lay out what should be
> > different (i.e. CDT 2D or 3D, independence of memory, streaming and so
> on).
> >
> > stefan
> >
> > erwan bocher wrote:
> > > Dear OpenJumper,
> > >
> > > We are working at IRSTV on a CDT api in JAVA.  The api will integrate
> > > some functionalities like insert polygon with hole, node, line and
> > > skeleton refinement. It's a transposition of my thesis work in pure
> java.
> > >
> > > Feel free to send me a mail.
> > >
> > > R1.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2008/4/16, Geoffrey G Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>:
> >
> > >
> > >     Dear SS (and others)
> > >
> > >     Could you let me know ehat the status is for the use of Java 1.6 -
> has a
> > >     decision been made to move OpenJump, or is it still a work in
> progress.
> > >
> > >     Geoff
> > >
> > >
> > >     Stefan Steiniger wrote:
> > >      > Hei Christopher
> > >      >
> > >      > thanks for your outline :)
> > >      > I actually have not that much background knowledge to evaluate
> if
> > >     what
> > >      > you do propose is good, but I guess you know it better. But
> > >     modularity
> > >      > is always a plus and documentation is sufficient. However.. a
> > >     good rule
> > >      > is to always start with a simple model and extend it later.
> I.e. one
> > >      > could also make first all in one and then introduce modularity
> later.
> > >      >
> > >      > btw. Today I just stumbled across this article that has been
> > >     published
> > >      > this month:
> > >      > "Sweep-line algorithm for constrained Delaunay triangulation"
> > >      >
> > >
> http://www.informaworld.com/openurl?genre=article&issn=1365%2d8816&volume=22&issue=4&spage=449
> > >     <
> http://www.informaworld.com/openurl?genre=article&issn=1365%2d8816&volume=22&issue=4&spage=449
> >
> > >      >
> > >      > If there is need I can send it to you. Note, that it is a 2D
> > >     algorithm
> > >      > (brwosing the article shortly). I actually have needs too for
> 2D
> > >     CDT's..
> > >      > in map generalization.
> > >      >
> > >      > cheers
> > >      > stefan
> > >      >
> > >      > Christopher wrote:
> > >      >
> > >      >> Sorry for the radio silence, I've been a thinking
> > >      >> philosopher not an eating philosopher. I can only hope
> > >      >> a fork and food are there when I need them ;)
> > >      >>
> > >      >>  I've been reading the papers of the computational
> > >      >> geometry "heros" and thinking of an overall framework
> > >      >> for the TIN side of things. I just got my copy of
> > >      >> "Foundations of Multidimensional and Metric Data
> > >      >> Structures" by Hanan Samet yesterday and it is already
> > >      >> proving a valuable resource.
> > >      >>
> > >      >> Broadly speaking, I want to structure the TIN
> > >      >> import/creation side as a serial chain. Each node in
> > >      >> the stream would either gather statistics about the
> > >      >> stream flowing through it, alter the input stream into
> > >      >> an changed version of the current type of stream, or
> > >      >> alter the input stream into a different kind of output
> > >      >> stream altogether.
> > >      >>
> > >      >> Suppose we had defined streams of DataSource (file,
> > >      >> database, WMS, etc), Geometry, Point, LineString,
> > >      >> GeometryCollection, and TINface. Then we can have a
> > >      >> bunch of small modules that process these streams in
> > >      >> different ways that can then themselves be combined in
> > >      >> different ways given the need. For instance, one
> > >      >> module could take an I/O stream from a USGS NED .bif
> > >      >> elevation file then output a stream of Points. Another
> > >      >> module could take a stream of Points, perform a simple
> > >      >> random insertion Delaunly algorithm, then output a
> > >      >> stream of TINfaces. The final module down the line
> > >      >> would take the TINfaces and output an instance of a
> > >      >> TIN. An alternate final module could take save the TIN
> > >      >> to a file or even a database.
> > >      >>
> > >      >> Some benefits of this structure include:
> > >      >> * being able to use the same module in very different
> > >      >> types of chains.
> > >      >> * modules in each layer (ie you could have different
> > >      >> Delaunly algorithms for PointStream -> TINface
> > >      >> transition) could be easily swapped around, making
> > >      >> this a great research platform.
> > >      >> * by using Paul's JCSP lib, the different nodes on a
> > >      >> stream could be run concurrently allowing for
> > >      >> wonderful scaling on today's multi-core,
> > >      >> multi-processor machines.
> > >      >> * it should work equally well for a small NED data set
> > >      >> imported into memory or a huge raw LIDAR DEM file
> > >      >> saved into a PostGIS database.
> > >      >>
> > >      >> Right now, I'm reading my eyes out and trying to
> > >      >> figure out what kind of streams and data structures
> > >      >> will be needed to be able handle any kind of TIN
> > >      >> importation tasks might be needed by anyone, anywhere,
> > >      >> in any java GIS project. I also have finals going on,
> > >      >> so don't expect any worknig code in the next week or
> > >      >> so.
> > >      >>
> > >      >> As far as future funding, I'm going forward as if
> > >      >> everything will go through fine and no checks will
> > >      >> bounce. I'll probably still work on the project if
> > >      >> something goes wrong, but the manhours will be much
> > >      >> less given that I'll have to find other work for the
> > >      >> summer.
> > >      >>
> > >      >> --Christopher
> > >      >>
> > >      >>
> > >      >>
> > >      >> --- Sunburned Surveyor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
> > >      >> wrote:
> > >      >>
> > >      >>
> > >      >>> Paul,
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>> Thanks for the link on JSR-275. That looks very
> > >      >>> interesting, and
> > >      >>> surprisingly simple. I just skimmed through the
> > >      >>> introduction of the
> > >      >>> JavaWorld article, but I will read it in more detail
> > >      >>> this weekend. I
> > >      >>> think I can incorporate it into the code I'm already
> > >      >>> working on.
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>> Stefan and Chris,
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>> I explained to Chris the conditions that must be met
> > >      >>> before we are
> > >      >>> accepted. I think he has a good understanding of
> > >      >>> these. It seemed from
> > >      >>> our early e-mails that he was eager to move forward.
> > >      >>> Stefan is correct
> > >      >>> in that we do not have a gaurantee of acceptance or
> > >      >>> payment from
> > >      >>> Chris' work. He would be working as a volunteer like
> > >      >>> the rest of us
> > >      >>> for the time being.
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>> The Sunburned Surveyor
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Stefan Steiniger
> > >      >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>>> Question.. is Chris accepted, i.e. will he get a
> > >      >>>>
> > >      >>> grant by GSofC?
> > >      >>>
> > >      >>>> Otherwise it is his decision to work on it or not
> > >      >>>>
> > >      >>>> stefan
> > >      >>>>
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