Hi Arndt, the device seems to support NMEA over a virtual com port installed by a driver under windows. Under linux it looks like it is supported by gpsd, which supplies the necessary kernel modules and hotplug scripts to setup a usb device node.
as far as I'm concerned, good choice Arndt. Please send it over to Edgar Soldin c/o group of pictures Bismarckstr 27-29 50672 Köln How long can you spare the device? .. regards ede -- > Hello Ede, > > could You please have a look to the HAICOM HI-204E / HI-204E. > It is a nice receiver which can work with egnos correction signal for > D-GPS. > > product information - http://www.haicom.com.tw/gps204III_USB.aspx > manual - http://www.haicom.com.tw/driver/HI-204III_USB.pdf > > I found information for a linux driver here: > http://myy.helia.fi/~karte/haicom_hi-204e_usb_gps_on_linux.html > > Kindly regards > Arnd > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: >> >> Very good Arnd, >> >> if you will supply it I actually am less picky. I even think if I run >> into severe incompatibility issues between javagps & the mouse output >> we could simply swap the model... >> >> Essentially I am not going to survey. So the accuracy is not overly >> important. I'd say I'd need the following: >> >> - USB Mouse with drivers which emulate serial interfaces under >> Windows XP & Linux >> - with a cable of at least 2 meters, to avoid the need of an extender >> - it should output NMEA for a start, but I am willing to test >> Sirf/Garmin as well >> >> Thanks for your support.. Ede >> -- >> >>> Hello Edgar, >>> >>> I just had a talk in the team and I nowcan give You the positive >>> reaction. So, we can spend You a GPS mouse for the development of >>> the GPS plugin. So let us choose a usable mouse for it. >>> >>> Kindly regards >>> Arnd >>> >>> Edgar Soldin schrieb: >>>> The extension is using a java gps framework which can be found here >>>> http://javagps.sourceforge.net/ >>>> and should work as smoothly as in 2004 (at least I hope so) as soon >>>> as the serial input is brought back to life. Though there might be >>>> problems with changes between jump 1.1.1 & the recent openjump... >>>> but I'll take care of that then. >>>> >>>> Thanks so far.. ede >>>> -- >>>>> Hello Edgar, >>>>> >>>>> I think it should be possible to spend You a mouse for the >>>>> development of the plugin. I will discuss it tomorrow in the team >>>>> and give You soon a response. >>>>> >>>>> Two years ago we made some experiences gathering data from a gps >>>>> receiver by a quickly developed standalone java tool. maybe the >>>>> source code could also help you developing a gps plugin for OJ for >>>>> realtime gps data import?? >>>>> >>>>> Kindly regards >>>>> Arnd >>>>> >>>>>> good idea .. >>>>>> >>>>>> maybe you (PIROL) or the guys from lat/lon (Andreas? are you >>>>>> reading me?) can spend a gps mouse for a month or so ... >>>>>> how about it? >>>>>> >>>>>> regards ede >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Edgar, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> may be that I missunderstood what is needed... >>>>>>> So, I want to ask if it is helpful when You get a receiver for >>>>>>> Your development from someone? >>>>>>> Then it should be a receiver which could provide data in NMEA >>>>>>> and also SIRF protocol. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kindly regards >>>>>>> Arnd >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Edgar Soldin schrieb: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Arnd Kielhorn wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Edgar, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> does it make any differences what chipset the GPS receiver >>>>>>>>> have, when You only want to get the NMEA data from it??? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it does when I have to spend my own private money ;) ... my >>>>>>>> point about it is just, if I consider a device it should be a >>>>>>>> fair trade of value vs. function.. I don't want it only to >>>>>>>> check the input. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But still: If I don't have this device anybody knows of an >>>>>>>> easy way to send data to the serial device to doublecheck that >>>>>>>> its working with java? Maybe a nullmodem cable with a second pc >>>>>>>> sending out test data? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But by the way, if using a SIRF chipset You have to look into >>>>>>>>> the manual if the reciever works with fix positions or if the >>>>>>>>> receiver gives only the calculated position. When You use SIRF >>>>>>>>> dynamically (e.g. with a car) it is not so critically when the >>>>>>>>> GPS works with fix position. But when You use it by feet (e.g. >>>>>>>>> field mapping by feet) You change You position very slowly and >>>>>>>>> often only a little bit, so You should not have a SIRF chipset >>>>>>>>> in the receiver which works with fix positions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> that's confusing .. sorry .. what is the exact difference >>>>>>>> between a _fixed_ and a _calculated_ position (isn't the >>>>>>>> position always _calculated_ from the satellite signals, at >>>>>>>> least is this what I researched for my thesis ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, from my point of view a GPS plugin should import the >>>>>>>>> NMEA0183 raw data (by choosing COM/USB port and baud rate) and >>>>>>>>> separate the WGS84 position. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the GPS tracker so far works this way (see attached graphics) >>>>>>>> - configure it under options >>>>>>>> - enable the gps thread receiving from the gps device (1.) >>>>>>>> - using a java gps library it can interpret nmea,sirf & garmin >>>>>>>> - if the gps delivers a position you may find it in the status bar >>>>>>>> - you can enable a tracking of one tasks viewport >>>>>>>> - you can append points to existing features, or create new >>>>>>>> features by inserting points to a layer (2.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for the screens I had setup java 1.4.2 with jump 1.1.1 to have >>>>>>>> the commapi working. I am not sure if OJ is still Java 4 capable? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> as mentioned before.. I will research the current state of >>>>>>>> serial interfaces and sun java and update the corresponding >>>>>>>> code, to make it work under win32.. I don't have no schedule >>>>>>>> now .. but I will find some time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Receivers with SIRF II or III You can costs about 40 to 100 >>>>>>>>> Euros. E.g. HAICOM HI-204 [cabled] is a smart small reciever >>>>>>>>> usable for car navigation and also for field mapping. >>>>>>>>> Accuracy: about 1 to 5 Meters >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The german computer magazin c't regularly recommends the >>>>>>>> "SiRFstar III" because older chipsets consume more power and a >>>>>>>> not that sensitive. I just found an article from 2007. I don't >>>>>>>> have the experience so I am asking anybody to share their >>>>>>>> experience or third party test results. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But for field mapping it is important to get gps position with >>>>>>>>> high accuracy. So You need a high end receiver for 1500 to >>>>>>>>> 2500 Euros (e.g. Satloc AgIQ or Hemisphere A100). They are >>>>>>>>> working with 5 or 10 Hz, it means 5 or 10 times a second they >>>>>>>>> calculate a position. And they have an accuracy 20 to 40 >>>>>>>>> centimeters. We mostly using such kind of receivers in our >>>>>>>>> project. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I hope this informations are useful?! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> they really are .. thanks alot Arndt >>>>>>>> regards Ede >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kindly regards >>>>>>>>> Arnd >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hallo Peppe, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Edgar, >>>>>>>>>>> I always skipped the idea to buy a GPS. But probably >>>>>>>>>>> this is the time: I saw handle GPS have become quite >>>>>>>>>>> unexpensive for now, and mouse GPS even more! I will >>>>>>>>>>> get one for my field job. And I will joy the test. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1) Any idea for a newby (as me) to buy a GPS? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> no idea ... but I would also appreciate some shopping advice >>>>>>>>>> as developing against a real device would make things alot >>>>>>>>>> easier >>>>>>>>>> @Arndt PIROL ... maybe you guys have an overview over the >>>>>>>>>> market? >>>>>>>>>> All I know is that it should contain a Sirf III chipset, as >>>>>>>>>> this should be the best consumer gps chip. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 2) As you wrote, the gps plugin needs to work together >>>>>>>>>>> the crs plugin. This means that people have to write >>>>>>>>>>> their own crs database (the cs.conf file) according >>>>>>>>>>> the area they work. This is not complicate but not even >>>>>>>>>>> simple. So: >>>>>>>>>>> a) I invite the gps volunteers to read carefully the >>>>>>>>>>> wiki page on how to configure/use the cs.conf file >>>>>>>>>>> (http://openjump.org/wiki/show/Working+with+Projections) >>>>>>>>>>> b) OR to write to the mail list the CRS they want to >>>>>>>>>>> work with, in order we configure the right cs.cong >>>>>>>>>>> file >>>>>>>>>>> -Note we can also limit the test between EPSG 4326 >>>>>>>>>>> (WGS 84 geografic 2D) and varius WGS84/UTM projections >>>>>>>>>>> CRS (betweeen EPSG 32601 and EPSG 32760)- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well.. it's not that the extension wouldn't work .. it'll >>>>>>>>>> just track in the reference system of the mouse.. with the >>>>>>>>>> device I developed it, this was WGS84, which I would expect >>>>>>>>>> as standard for GPS devices... but who knows .. anyone in the >>>>>>>>>> list maybe? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 3) SS is working on a new CRS plugin (from deegree). >>>>>>>>>>> It would be interesting to see what happens using gps >>>>>>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If this CRS extension is released it should be possible to >>>>>>>>>> interface it ... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> kind regards ede >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> jump-users mailing list >>>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/jump-users >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> jump-users mailing list >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/jump-users >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> jump-users mailing list >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/jump-users >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> public class WhoDidIt{ // A comment. I love comments private >>>>>> static Person sender; >>>>>> >>>>>> public static void main (String[] foo){ >>>>>> >>>>>> sender = new Person(); >>>>>> sender.setName(new String[]{"Edgar", "Soldin"}); >>>>>> >>>>>> Address address = new Address(); >>>>>> address.setStreet("Stadtweg 119"); >>>>>> address.setZip(39116); >>>>>> address.setCity("Magdeburg"); >>>>>> address.setCountry("Germany"); >>>>>> >>>>>> sender.setAddress(address); >>>>>> >>>>>> sender.setMobilePhone(" +49(0)171-2782880 "); >>>>>> sender.setWebSiteUrl(" http://www.soldin.de "); >>>>>> sender.setEmail(" [EMAIL PROTECTED] "); >>>>>> sender.setPGPPublicKey(" http://www.soldin.de/edgar_soldin.asc "); >>>>>> sender.setGender(true); >>>>>> >>>>>> System.out.println(sender.toString()); >>>>>> } >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> jump-users mailing list >>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/jump-users >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> jump-users mailing list >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://lists.refractions.net/mailman/listinfo/jump-users >> >> > -- public class WhoDidIt{ // A comment. 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