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Betreff: [XxxJUMP-users] Re: Help with a plugin developed for JUMP
Datum: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:34:31 -0700 (PDT)
Von: Mars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On 13-Aug-08, at 5:14 PM, Stefan Steiniger wrote:

> Hei,

> I am a bit confused - it seems to me like there are 2 things you post aboout. 
> One is the updating of the old JUMP plugin and a second one is the eziLink 
> issue. Am I right?
_

Yes you are correct.

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> on eziLink: ... that is an interesting issue. And I more or less aggree with 
> your oppinion on the "free" use tools that build upon free software.
> Unfortunately it is not to see if HOW the software is coupled with JUMP. So 
> if one builds a plugin that uses JUMP on one side and an independent library 
> that does not use any JUMP functionality on the other
> side, then
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The EziLink issue is one that I simply stumbled upon and found
incredibly odd...
I am grateful for VividSolutions Inc. to keep the lines of Openness
for JUMP, but I suppose it was part of the guidance and sponsorship by
the Canadian Geospatial Data Infrastructure (GeoConnections Canada -
http://cgdi.gc.ca/Welcome.do), the British Columbia Ministry of
Sustainable Resource Management (now de-solved into different
ministries) who originally created the project as OpenSource and
awarded the contract to Vivid Solutions Inc., the Center for
Topographic Information a division of Natural Resources Canada -
http://www.cits.rncan.gc.ca/, and the Ontario provincial Ministry of
Natural Resources -http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/index.html.

It is something altogether curious that the esf-(plugin) developed
with public funding under OpenSource GPL, and JUMP developed under GPL
appear in an application that is locked down by a license, in order to
use the esf-(plugin).

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> they fall not under the requirements of the GPL (only the plugin code).
> One would need to look on the integration (i.e. the source code) to find that 
> out.
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I have been met with silence in regards to the source code. I have
formally requested the source code under GPL v2 or v3 at their
discretion which was given to them by Vivid Solutions Inc. under
contract.
looking at the framework it looks like the biggest difference is some
modification to the esf-(plugin) UI, and the addition of a "licensing-
class" which locks out use of the esf-web-(plugin) for submission.

The Electronic Submission Framework is being touted as a completely
open and standards based interface... And it is... to a degree.  For
small woodland licensees there is no choice in being able to use a
free tool (unless you count text editors to write your own XML) to
easily make submissions.

Now I am no expert on the Licensing matters, I simply see dots,
correlate time and events and see a pattern which points someplace.
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> However, I am going to send this answer to the old jump-user list and the 
> jpp-developer list as well - hoping that we can also get some feedback from 
> original JUMP people and other developers.

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I do not wish to take a money making scheme away from a company like
Forsite, I (we) woodlot licensees, and the small forestry consultants
who work for woodlots merely want a simple solution to help reduce the
financial burden on very small woodlot tenures who end up spending on
average $4-500 every time they need to make a submission to
government.

I noticed that there is an esf-submission(client and web plugin) for
JUMP built on the GNU GPL v2 license and simply am requesting help to
implement it for its intended use, ESF submissions for the citizens of
BC to freely use, and not by one company to monopolize on a situation.

I totally respect the work that Vivid Solutions Inc. has done,
Jonathan Aquino  and Martin Davis in addition to Refractions Research
David Blasby.  Fantastic work on creating a robust cross platform GIS.

As a tax payer who help fund the project both at the Provincial and
Federal level, I'd just like to partake in some of the OpenSource
goodness.

cheers!

Mars



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