>
> Where do you want to store dbf header information exactly ? In the
>
DriverProperties ?
>
I'm not going to store the header info. I'm going to detect that the file
exists before saving over it and read the header first.

Larry

2010/6/22 Michaël Michaud <michael.mich...@free.fr>

> Larry Becker a écrit :
> > Hi Michaël,
> >
> >   The approach I'm taking to reach the same goal is quite different.
> > If it works, the modification will only be in one method:
> > ShapefileWriter.writeDbf(FeatureCollection featureCollection, String
> > fname).  What I intend is to read fname's dbf header using
> > DbfFile(String file), if the file exists, and use the DbfFieldDefs
> > contained within.  At this point I don't know when the "Replace
> > existing file" dialog occurs, and if it deletes it before writeDbf is
> > called.  Do you see any other pitfalls of this approach?
> Yes, the shapefile only solution will be more simple to implement. I did
> not understand why you worry about when "Replace existing file" occurs.
> Where do you want to store dbf header information exactly ? In the
> DriverProperties ?
>
> Michaël
> >
> > regards,
> > Larry
> >
> > 2010/6/22 Michaël Michaud <michael.mich...@free.fr
> > <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr>>
> >
> >     Hi Larry,
> >
> >     As you go on working about this feature, I just want to let you
> >     know the
> >     work I did in 2004 to add new attribute types in JUMP
> >     You'll find a patch and a complete doc here :
> >     http://michael.michaud.free.fr/jump/plugins/plugins.html (hoping
> >     you can
> >     read french)
> >     My concern was exactly "not to change input schema". I abandonned it
> >     because my concern changed, and because I could not update every
> piece
> >     of JUMP code that should have been updated  to take new attribute
> >     types
> >     into account (especially database-access, but not only).
> >
> >     Michaël
> >
> >     Larry Becker a écrit :
> >     > I agree with Michaël. This isn't really a bug, but it is annoying
> to
> >     > have your DBF header modified.   I have already spent some time
> >     trying
> >     > to implement a "don't modify the DBF header" approach to
> >     > SaveSelectedDatasets, but it seems to be a difficult
> >     modification and
> >     > I haven't gotten very far on it yet.  The idea is to read the
> >     existing
> >     > header and associate with the attributes being saved (by name)
> >     > whenever possible, and convert using custom format specifiers.
> >     >
> >     > I'll keep working on it because this is an important feature since
> >     > shape files are OJ's primary dataset.
> >     >
> >     > regards,
> >     > Larry
> >     >
> >     > 2010/6/22 Michaël Michaud <michael.mich...@free.fr
> >     <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr>
> >     > <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr>>>
> >     >
> >     >     Hi,
> >     >
> >     >     Would be interesting to have more details.
> >     >     Different bytes surrounded in your pdf file is related to a
> >     recent
> >     >     discussion with Larry on the forum.
> >     >
> >     >     OpenJUMP does not support length/decimal count in attribute
> >     >     definition.
> >     >     It exports :
> >     >     integers to 11 bytes long dbf field (thanks to Larry who
> reduced
> >     >     it from
> >     >     16 to 11)
> >     >     doubles to 33 bytes long dbf field including 16 decimal
> >     digits (hence
> >     >     the 21 10 bytes from OJ dbf instead of 0c 03 which means 12
> >     bytes
> >     >     including 3 decimal digit)
> >     >
> >     >     It is not easy to workaround this, but it can not considered
> >     as a bug.
> >     >     OpenOffice.org calc can read these files very well and write
> >     the field
> >     >     length this way :
> >     >     before :
> >     >     poiShapeID,N,4,0        poiTypID,N,4,0  poiName,C,50
> >     >
> >     >     after
> >     >     poiShapeID,N,11,0       poiTypID,N,11,0         poiName,C,32
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     Notice that the character field has also been changed because
> >     >     there were
> >     >     no field with more than 32 characters in the dataset
> >     >
> >     >     If OpenJUMP dbf cannot be uploaded to access with Borland-BDE,
> I
> >     >     suppose
> >     >     there is another problem.
> >     >     I do not understand what is the matter with the length of
> >     file names.
> >     >
> >     >     my 2 cents
> >     >
> >     >     Michaël
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >
> >     >     Stefan Steiniger a écrit :
> >     >     > Hei All/Developers,
> >     >     >
> >     >     > I got an email from Bernd describing the following problem
> >     with
> >     >     > OpenJUMP writing shape/dbf files. [my translation]:
> >     >     >
> >     >     > =============
> >     >     > It seem like the dbf headers written by OpenJUMP are not
> >     conform to
> >     >     > the DBASE III standard.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Working with Borland-BDE dbase-tests failed and an Error
> >     8961 is
> >     >     > returned. The BDE was/is actually used to include the dbf
> >     files
> >     >     into a
> >     >     > MS Access database - in particular as the BDE supports
> >     long file
> >     >     names.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > With short file names the BDE is not used and hence there
> >     are no
> >     >     > problems, also other programs don't seem to test for the
> >     correct dbf
> >     >     > header. but... short filenames are not so comfortable, etc.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Attached is a file (hexdump_dbf.pdf) that shows the
> >     differences
> >     >     before
> >     >     > and after OJ writes the shape file - and the changes in
> >     the header.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > The saved file contains several spaces and quite a bit of
> >     digits
> >     >     after
> >     >     > the comma [sound very similar to what Michael looked into
> >     lately?] -
> >     >     > hence the file size is bigger too.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > ==============
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Anyone who is interested in fixing that or has any
> >     suggestions?
> >     >     >
> >     >     > the dbase standard description is also attached
> >     >     >
> >     >     > mhm.. I actually would not be surprised when the original
> >     shape file
> >     >     > writer is from the 90ies
> >     >     >
> >     >     > stefan
> >     >     >
> >     >     > -------- Original Message --------
> >     >     > Subject:     OpenJump, Shape und Dbase
> >     >     > Date:     Thu, 17 Jun 2010 13:41:52 +0200
> >     >     > From:     <bernd.we...@erfurt.de
> >     <mailto:bernd.we...@erfurt.de> <mailto:bernd.we...@erfurt.de
> >     <mailto:bernd.we...@erfurt.de>>>
> >     >     > To:     <sst...@geo.uzh.ch <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch>
> >     <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch <mailto:sst...@geo.uzh.ch>>>
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Hallo Stefan,
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Im speziellen Fall geht es um die numerischen Datenfelder
> (Typ
> >     >     double)
> >     >     > aus den DBF-Dateien, die nicht ganz den Spezifikationen von
> >     >     DBASE III
> >     >     > genügen. Mitbekommen habe ich das bei Einsatz der
> Borland-BDE,
> >     >     die den
> >     >     > Header offensichtlich genau prüft und einen Fehler 8961
> >     meldet.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Viele Programme scheint die Veränderung des Headers nicht zu
> >     >     stören, die
> >     >     > BDE schon. Zur Erinnerung: Ich habe die BDE ausprobiert,
> >     um die
> >     >     DBFs aus
> >     >     > den SHAPES in eine MS-ACCESS-Datenbank einzubinden, weil
> >     die BDE
> >     >     auch
> >     >     > lange Dateinamen unterstützt. ACCESS deswegen, weil ich
> >     dort mit
> >     >     > einfachen Abfragen aus Sachdatenbanken (Informix) die
> Geodaten
> >     >     ergänzen
> >     >     > und aufwerten kann.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Mit kurzen Dateinamen brauche ich die BDE nicht, habe keine
> >     >     Probleme mit
> >     >     > ACCESS, aber GIS mit kurzen Dateinamen sieht recht komisch
> >     aus.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Hier nun meine Forschungsergebnisse:
> >     >     >
> >     >     > 1. Daten im Originalzustand in File hexdump_ok.pdf
> >     >     > hier ist nach den Datentypen N=Numerical zu erkennen, daß die
> >     >     Feldgrößen
> >     >     > sich in typischen Werten bewegen.
> >     >     > 2. Daten im File hexdump_err.pdf
> >     >     > Nach "Speichern unter …" im Openjump sind diese Eintragungen
> >     >     deutlich
> >     >     > anders und die numerischen Werte haben führende
> >     Leerzeichen und ganz
> >     >     > viele Nachkommastellen.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Dieses Verhalten erklärt auch, warum Fremddaten nach
> >     Bearbeitung
> >     >     mit OJ
> >     >     > mehr Speicherplatz brauchen als im Original.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Die DBASE-Spezifikationen habe ich Dir als 3. Datei
> angehängt.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > In der Hoffnung, daß Du jemanden findest, der das Problem
> >     lösen
> >     >     kann,
> >     >     > verbleibe ich mit vielen Grüßen aus dem sonnigen Thüringen.
> >     >     >
> >     >     > Bernd Wehle
> >     >     > Tiefbau- und Verkehrsamt Erfurt
> >     >     > 99085 Erfurt, Steinplatz1
> >     >     > Tel.: 0361 655 3108
> >     >     > Fax: 0361 655 3178
> >     >     > e-Mail: ___bernd.we...@erfurt.de_
> >     <mailto:bernd.we...@erfurt.de <mailto:bernd.we...@erfurt.de>
> >     >     <mailto:bernd.we...@erfurt.de <mailto:bernd.we...@erfurt.de>>>
> >     >     >
> >     >     > <<hexdump_ok.pdf>> <<hexdump_err.pdf>>
> >     <<dbase_strukturen.pdf>>
> >     >     >
> >     >     >
> >     >
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