Hi,

Nice to learn something new every day. Today it was opening zipped files 
directly. I can see that even a saved project can open data from zip file. 
Could there be one more row in the Files of type list:
Zip (with any supported files)?

Makes me think that for delivering the whole project it would be handy to have 
a new "Save Project as... With All/Some Data Zipped".  All or just selected 
layers would be saved into a zip file if possible and the whole project could 
be copied/mailed/installed on all the computers in a class with the most simple 
way.

-Jukka-
 

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> Lähettäjä: edgar.sol...@web.de [mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de] 
> Lähetetty: 13. lokakuuta 2011 10:41
> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] strings for pan synchronization options are gone
> 
> On 13.10.2011 09:12, Rahkonen Jukka wrote:
> > Double step selecting may feel odd with the standard 
> installation but there is one plugin utilising the double 
> step format-file name selection. Deejump plugin adds another 
> shapefile adapter and one more GML reader.  By the way, it 
> can open GML2 files coming from WFS 1.0.0 service or created 
> by ogr2ogr without OpenJUMP templates and therefore it is 
> rather usefule sometimes. It is easiest to get with the 
> deejump packege http://wiki.deegree.org/deegreeWiki/OpenJumpPackages.
> > Deegree adapters give also two alternatives for normal 
> saving, either normal shapefile or GML saving or saving to 
> zip file. Therefore I would not say that the two-step 
> selection is useless, even it is true that we do not need the 
> extented possibilities much at the moment.
> 
> ok have to look what deree does. as it is in core, you select 
> below and above it is updated to the same or all files.
> 
> > 
> > Quantum GIS is showing a long list of file types and on the 
> bottom stands "All files". I think that selecting "All files" 
> leads to automatic selection of the file type by GDAL/OGR. It 
> is quite clever in investigating the file structure and 
> recognising the file type. I can believe it has taken a lot 
> of tricky programming. If user selects a certain driver it is 
> only possible to open files with a fixed file name extension. 
> For example after selecting Spatialite only files ending 
> .sqlite are listed.
> 
> that's how i prefer it to be. usually a file selected from 
> all files view is opened according to it's extension which 
> has a handler assigned.
> 
> > 
> > QGIS can have different drivers for the same file type even 
> the standard installation seems to use OGR for everything. I 
> can see from the list one example where same file name 
> extension is used by two OGR drivers. There seems to be 
> INTERLIS 1 and INTERLIS 2 usind extensions .itf, .xml, .ili, 
> .ITF, .XML, or .ILI. I think that it means that user MUST use 
> one of there registered file name extensions, because if the 
> name was for example .interlis then user must select "All 
> files" in the first step and after that it is up to OGR what 
> driver gets selected. It is possible that OGR knows the 
> difference between INTERLIS 1 and INTERLIS 2 but anyway it is 
> out of the control of the user.
> 
> i read there is a setting somewhere where the preferred 
> driver for a format can be selected. 
> 
> > 
> > I tried to fool QGIS by selecting "INTERLIS 1" driver and 
> filtering filename list by *.shp. QGIS opens the shapefiles 
> also this way which means that OGR is quietly dropping the 
> Interlis driver and the file is opened with OGR shapefile driver.
> 
> the routine is probably as described above. why use different 
> ones for each format ;)
> 
> > 
> > Naturally using some own file name extensions is usually 
> stupid but as Martin said there is no standard extension for 
> GML/XML, text files appear with many equally good extensions 
> like .txt or .csv or something else and perhaps someone would 
> like to use something shorter than .geojson or .sqlite.
> > 
> > Now I wonder if deegree shapefile and GML adapters can 
> really only save into zipped format but not open it, or is it 
> so that the different dialogue we have for opening files has 
> dropped that alternative.
> 
> our file open dialog automatically opens zip files and tries 
> to open each of the files contained. try it.
> 
> ..ede
> 
> > 
> > -Jukka Rahkonen-
> > 
> > 
> > Martin Davis wrote:
> > 
> >  
> >> One reason for having the double choice of both format and 
> >> file name is 
> >> that there are formats (such as GML) which don't have a 
> standard file 
> >> extension that can be used to drive the choice of format.
> >>
> >> Also, in JUMP originally we supported a zipped shapefile 
> concept.  It 
> >> had the extension .zip, but was read by the Shapefile driver.
> >>
> >> One thing that could be do would be to use the file extension 
> >> to drive 
> >> the initial format setting, but allow it to be overridden for 
> >> files with 
> >> non-specific extensions.
> >>
> >> I'm also curious how other apps (such as QGIS) handle this?
> >>
> >> On 10/12/2011 1:30 PM, edgar.sol...@web.de wrote:
> >>> On 12.10.2011 22:18, Michaël Michaud wrote:
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 12/10/2011 21:55, edgar.sol...@web.de a écrit :
> >>>>> On 11.10.2011 02:10, Stefan Steiniger wrote:
> >>>>>> The first bug I encountered is MacOSX specific - and we 
> >> probably forgot
> >>>>>> aboout that "save-ing" bug. I.e. there is no "field" in 
> >> the Save Dataset
> >>>>>> As dialog to write a name.. one can only chose 
> existing files :(
> >>>>> funny enough it comes up for gml 2.0 ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> still the whole _double_ drop down select format seems 
> >> senseless. any objections to redesign it to industry standard 
> >> one dropdown select format?
> >>>> Can't remember a reason for the current design.
> >>>> I agree this is redundant, even if a single combobox will 
> >> not allow to
> >>>> choose a format and display either files with this 
> format extension
> >>>> and/or files with any extension (not sure it is useful).
> >>>>
> >>> check an application of your choice. this is how a save 
> >> dialog works usually. select a format, files according 
> >> selected formats extensions are shown.. choose one or enter 
> >> your own name.
> >>>
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