Hi Giuseppe,

thank you for your very interesting suggestions.

In the past we could change the manuals *after* the official
release was provided because the nightbuild could change every day.
I agree that we need a deadline not to change menues or functionality
to have time for changing the manuals too.

But I think we should fix bugs in the official version too and not only 
in the nightbuilds.
If there is a bug in the official version and it its fixed why
can we not update the official version (with a new build-number)?
So the official version would be always bug-free.

New features should be for a new release in the nightbuild.

What do you think?

Regards

Uwe


Am 23.01.2012 18:41, schrieb Giuseppe Aruta:
> Hi all,
> I am very busy in these days with my job so excuse me if I do a
> cumulative answer.
>
> I think we should leave all things as they are for OJ 1..5.1 without
> modifying anything.
> But we can leave a general common discussion and open a page for an
> up-to-come version of OJ (1.6? 2?) where we can define all the radical
> and non radical modifications of menus and plugins.
>
> The points.
>
> 1) As Uwe pointed it's hard to modify manuals if we have a software that
> is modified every version (modified in a better way, I say). That's why
> I gave up on upgrading the on-line manual/list of tool.
> On the other hand OpenJUMP evolves and we need to change. It is probably
> time to migrate to ELML/docbook or similar that make things more easy
> and fast to do.
>
> 2) To come close to academic needs, we can define a specific official
> version of OpenJUMP not only when all modifications are approved by the
> community but also when a basic manual, at least for Uwe's lessons, is
> prepared. Better if before September (the beginning of academic lessons,
> I believe). For instance:
> - we can freeze to add plugins or make modifications in February 2013
> for the official realize (1.6)
> - on this time we modify the manual for 1.6
> - the official realize can happen between August and September
> - of coarse only corrections of bugs will be allowed between February
> and September.
> On the same hand a the programming process goes on a 1.7 NB (to come on
> 2014 or 2015). The only problem will be that people who correct bugs
> between Feb and Sept hve to make corrections on both lineages (1.6
> up-to-come-official and 1.7 NB)
>
> Now the other points, possibly under point 2, if approved.
>
> 3) I think that the zip discussion can be included into Larry Baker's
> proposal to add to OJ SkyJUMP tool that saves also the project file into
> the zip folder.
>
> 4) I don't use a lot delete all layer items tool. When I was studying OJ
> and made may Frankenstein OpenJUMP Jufre I also realized the rescue to
> have this tool close to other like toggle visibility. I would vote to
> hide it
>
> 5) I think we should improve menu descriptions, using icons but also
> changing names. I worked more with Kosmo SAIG and I found it very easy
> to use and very flexible, also because everything is well described and
> easy to understand, even for newbies in GIS. As Stefan pointed out,
> being so far away from OJ community, probably helped to see things in a
> different way. Let us leave open the discussion.
>
> 6) +1 to group Buffer tools under a submenu.
>
> regards and excuse me for a long mail
>
> Giuseppe Aruta (ex-academic)
>
>
>
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