Yesterday I tested OJ Sextante in a new computer with Win8. I tested
Sewxtante for some raster processes: Sextante saves raster files on a
user/username//sextante folder which are not cancelled after closing
OpenJUMP. I didn't test for vector layers.
>From my point of view, It is not really bad to preserve these files even if
OJ is closed: it could happen that OJ freezes because of large ran
consumption. so user has to kill JVM and restart OJ. On the other hand,
thanks to new faster computers with more ram, this happens lesser and
lesser frequently. At least processes can last a dozen of minutes extra but
they come to end.
I would vote to have a similar situation for all OpenJUMP tools that have
an output in memory (included few Pirol tools that involve raster: crop
selection, etc). The main problem would be if these layers are modified
again after being created, I think
best
Peppe
2013/6/3 <edgar.sol...@web.de>
> On 03.06.2013 16:59, Stefan Steiniger wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Peppe just did it what I was going to say, with his last email: Pirol
> > plugins creates already such folder. I think it came from the attribute
> > cacluator, and maybe some display tool (raster?). So first step may be
> > to find that variable and set it to only .openjump.
>
> rather the value of the state folder as mentioned below, to keep it
> configurable.
>
> > Also Sextante creates temp files in the general tmp folder. But as Ede
> > did outline: OSX & Linux clean this folder automatically, while Win
> > users need to clean it manually once in a while. So when I implemented
> > functions in Sextante that generated temporary files, then I also
> > implemented routines to delete those - most of of the time (and only
> > necessary for win).
>
> actually it is good coding to cleanup. you are right that putting temp
> files in unix's temp folder can mitigate the danger flooding user's
> harddrive somewhat. but even in that case, proper unlinking after a file is
> not in use anymore should be done.
>
> i actually had to implement that for MrSid and simply utilized the window
> closing listener of the workbenchframe to try to delete any leftover MrSid
> temp files.
>
> ..ede
>
> >
> > cheers,
> > stefan
> >
> > Am 02.06.13 06:01, schrieb Giuseppe Aruta:
> >> Kosmo has an option to change this temp folder to other. Anyhow I will
> >> prefer an .Openjump folder in user directory. BTW Pirol tools (Sextante
> >> raster layer, I think) create an .OpenJump_PIROL folder in user
> >> directory, that should have an usage.
> >> Peppe
> >>
> >>
> >> 2013/6/1 <edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>>
> >>
> >> generally the value of
> >>
> >> -state <some/folder>
> >> specifies the folder where OpenJUMP stores data between
> executions
> >> (workbench-state.xml).
> >> Default: JUMP_HOME or SETTINGS_HOME
> >>
> >> parameter should be used here. currently this is either ~/.openjump
> >> or the OJ_FOLDER, depending on what is writable or configured.
> >>
> >> _not_ using the system temp folder should happen with care. as files
> >> easily pile up there, there should be routines that clean out files
> >> when they are needed anymore.
> >>
> >> ..ede
> >>
> >> On 01.06.2013 11 <tel:01.06.2013%2011>:58, Michaël Michaud wrote:
> >> > Hi Matthias,
> >> >
> >> > This is OK for me,
> >> > I've already a plugin using ~/.OpenJUMP/myplugin
> >> > Maybe you could use ~/.OpenJUMP/tmp instead of ~/openjump_tmp
> >> > as we can have other resources or config to store in the home
> >> directory
> >> >
> >> > Michaël
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> to save the data into the system temp directory (java.io.tmpdir)
> >> is not a good idea. Most Linux distributions runs a clean-tmp job
> >> during system startup! I would prefer the users home directory
> >> (user.home). Not the best solution, but here we have the guaranty,
> >> that this directory is writeable and no data will be removed through
> >> any automatic services. Perhaps we can create a subdirectory
> >> "openjump_tmp" in users home and save the data here. On next OJ
> >> startup we can check this directory for data and inform the user
> >> about automatically saved data.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is this ok?
> >> >>
> >> >> Matthias
> >> >>
> >> >>> As I know both Kosmo and GvSIG save working data into a temp
> >> folder. This makes easier to restore, at least saved informations,
> >> whenever JAVA VM is killed.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 2013/5/31 Michaël Michaud <michael.mich...@free.fr
> >> <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr> <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr
> >> <mailto:michael.mich...@free.fr>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi Matthias,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks to take care about this.
> >> >>> > I try to fix this problem:
> >> >>> >
> >>
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3613871&group_id=118054&atid=679906
> >> >>> > I've seen, that OJ closes without any warning if you kill
> >> the Java VM
> >> >>> > with the taskmanager or on a Linux shell with the kill
> >> command too. This
> >> >>> > seems to be the same as during OS shutdown. But we can
> >> catch this with a
> >> >>> > Runtime.addShutdownHook(). This is simply a Thead. The
> >> Thread is
> >> >>> > executed, during Java VM shutdown.
> >> >>> > I've made some tests with a ShutdownHook in the
> >> WorkbenchFrame. If i
> >> >>> > call the closeApplication() method (it's the same as you
> >> closing the
> >> >>> > WorkbenchFrame window), then you get only a JOptionPane
> >> with the
> >> >>> > possibility to exit OJ or to cancel. The problem for now
> >> is, that we do
> >> >>> > not have a possibillity to stop the Java VM shutdown.
> >> This dialog makes
> >> >>> > no sense here.
> >> >>> > My question is, do we have a "End"-dialog which can save
> >> unsafed data
> >> >>> > automatically?
> >> >>> We have something close to this situation when user try to
> >> "save as" a
> >> >>> project
> >> >>> containing layers without datasource.
> >> >>> I did not use this option while closing the application
> >> containing
> >> >>> unsaved layer
> >> >>> because I felt that this is not the normal way to save data
> >> (only two
> >> >>> formats
> >> >>> available and no possibility to choose the directory where
> >> data is saved).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> But for special situation where the main goal is saving, it
> >> is OK.
> >> >>> To go one step further and totally cancel the dialog box,
> >> my option would be
> >> >>> - to save data in jml (shapefile can lost information and
> >> make problems
> >> >>> with
> >> >>> heterogeneous geometries)
> >> >>> - to save the project in the system temp directory.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Any other opinion about how to handle this situation ?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Michaël
> >> >>> > Or what should we do with unsaved data in this
> situation?
> >> >>> > I mean, that we must do fast some things, because the OS
> >> do not wait
> >> >>> > infinity during shutdown. Problematic are especially new
> >> layers, without
> >> >>> > a datastore (never saved before). Any "old" or previous
> >> saved layers we
> >> >>> > can save automatically. Is this right in every situation?
> >> I mean, that
> >> >>> > the user should make a decision. But a fast....
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Please tell me your opinion.
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Matthias
> >> >>> >
> >> >>>
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