Hi Ede,

As stated in this discussion, I think that defining a null value or 
omitting the attribute is (or should be) equivalent (and the second is 
lighter !).

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11003424/should-json-include-null-values

In JML, I introduced nill attributes because some null values were 
transformed into empty string, which modified the original data.
May be it would have been  possible to omit the element (or the 
attribute) as suggested in the discussion about json.

Michaël


Le 04/11/2016 à 12:14, [email protected] a écrit :
> Mike,
>
> any opinion on the below? ..ede
>
> On 03.11.2016 16:20, [email protected] wrote:
>> just for completeness. does the same count for writing GeoJSON? obviously 
>> GDAL does it, but could you test w/ some other reader to doublecheck null 
>> mixed columns?
>>
>> ..ede
>>
>> On 03.11.2016 16:16, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:
>>> I tested JML with Boolean and date, parses nulls OK, I believe no 
>>> exceptions are needed. Having null is normal. Some day databases with layer 
>>> definitions NOT NULL can make trouble but we can forget it now.
>>>
>>> -Jukka-
>>>
>>>
>>> edgar.soldin wrore
>>>
>>> and it parses Double values too. so any exceptions needed or none at all? 
>>> ..ede
>>>
>>> On 03.11.2016 16:06, [email protected] wrote:
>>>> only for these two types or for Boolean as well?
>>>>
>>>> ..ede
>>>>
>>>> On 03.11.2016 15:53, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> JML reader accepts nulls in strings and longs (try with the attached 
>>>>> file), I would say that GeoJSON driver should do the same.   
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jukka-
>>>>>
>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Can't edit the schema of some layers
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike, Jukka,
>>>>>> so what do you guys say. should the GeoJSON reader
>>>>>    accept Long/null mixed columns as Long and do the same for the other 
>>>>> attribute types or
>>>>>    enforce these columns to be of type String as it is implemented now.
>>>>>
>>>>> ..ede
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03.11.2016 13:20, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:
>>>>>>> OpenJUMP can even set any attribute into NULL but only I and
>>>>>>> Michaël
>>>>>> know how until now *)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It looks like numeric attributes without any value are null while 
>>>>>>> strings and dates can have a value, be empty, or be NULL.  Michaël can 
>>>>>>> explain better but at least in shapefiles or actually in dbf string 
>>>>>>> born as NULL but it is saved into a file as an empty string which is 
>>>>>>> actually not empty but filled with asterisks. So if you open an 
>>>>>>> existing shapefile you do not see NULLs because they are empty strings 
>>>>>>> at that stage.
>>>>>> -Jukka-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *) with some attribute types (date, string) you must double click
>>>>>> and hold  the left button pressed and little NULL appears beside the
>>>>>> cursor)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>>>>>> Lähettäjä: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>> Lähetetty: 3. marraskuuta 2016 13:56
>>>>>> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Can't edit the schema of some layers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jukka, please try the latest snapshot from a minute ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> generally the reader assumes that NULL is a specific type. it looks like 
>>>>>> OJ tolerates numerical columns with NULL values. is that standard, 
>>>>>> should i modify the reader accordingly? is it a general rule for all 
>>>>>> attribute types?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ..ede
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03.11.2016 12:34, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>> i see the issue. there is one "keskikorkeus" being NULL forcing the 
>>>>>>> whole attribute column to become String.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of course this is a bug in the GeoJSON reader and i'll fix it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ..ede
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03.11.2016 12:24, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:
>>>>>>>> By taking the big dataset that I had originally in JML format and 
>>>>>>>> converting a subset of it with ogr2ogr into GeoJSON.  Test data 
>>>>>>>> contains 100 first features selected with SQL "limit 100 offset 0".  I 
>>>>>>>> believe that the error comes from the latter half because I can edit 
>>>>>>>> the schema of json file that I captured with "limit 50 offset 0".  I 
>>>>>>>> would look for gml_id=jarvi.106 which has NULL where other features 
>>>>>>>> have data.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Jukka-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>>>>>>>> Lähettäjä: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>> Lähetetty: 3. marraskuuta 2016 13:16
>>>>>>>> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Can't edit the schema of some layers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> how did you create it? manually by editing the geoJson file with a
>>>>>>>> text editor? ..ede
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03.11.2016 12:09, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I managed to create test data with only 100 features
>>>>>>>>> http://latuviitta.org/downloads/100.json
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For testing just open and try to edit and save the schema.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Jukka-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Re: [JPP-Devel] Can't edit the schema of some layers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ede,
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I have problems with creating a small GeoJSON that leads to 
>>>>>>>>>> this issue. I got the problematic layer by opening a big GeoJSON 
>>>>>>>>>> file but if I copy a few features from that layer to a new layer 
>>>>>>>>>> with Replicate features, then the problem disappears. I have also 
>>>>>>>>>> tried to make a short GeoJSON file with just one feature with GDAL 
>>>>>>>>>> but that does not show any problem.  The big GeoJSON is 2.6 GB.  I 
>>>>>>>>>> will continue trials with creating a small and failing data.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Jukka-
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Alkuperäinen viesti-----
>>>>>>>>> Lähettäjä: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>>>>>> Lähetetty: 2. marraskuuta 2016 18:17
>>>>>>>>> Vastaanottaja: OpenJump develop and use
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Aihe: Re: [JPP-Devel] Can't edit the schema of some layers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jukka,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> can you send me a small GeoJSON example file to replicate your issue?
>>>>>>>>> ..ede
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 02.11.2016 17:12, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I opened some data from GeoJSON and I can't edit the schema.
>>>>>>>>>> Apply changes yields just an error message. However, if I save
>>>>>>>>>> the data into JML or GeoJSON and open it from the disk, then I can 
>>>>>>>>>> edit the schema.
>>>>>>>>>> So unfortunately I can't provide with test data. Here is the
>>>>>>>>>> error, though
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.ClassCastException: java.lang.Long cannot be cast to
>>>>>>>>>> java.lang.String
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.ViewSchemaPlugIn.con
>>>>>>>>>> ve
>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>> t(
>>>>>>>>>> V
>>>>>>>>>> iewSchemaPlugIn.java:346)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.ViewSchemaPlugIn.con
>>>>>>>>>> ve
>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>> t(
>>>>>>>>>> V
>>>>>>>>>> iewSchemaPlugIn.java:287)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.ViewSchemaPlugIn.app
>>>>>>>>>> ly
>>>>>>>>>> C
>>>>>>>>>> ha
>>>>>>>>>> n
>>>>>>>>>> ges(ViewSchemaPlugIn.java:165)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.ViewSchemaPlugIn.acc
>>>>>>>>>> es
>>>>>>>>>> s
>>>>>>>>>> $3
>>>>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>>>>> 0(ViewSchemaPlugIn.java:77)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.plugin.ViewSchemaPlugIn$Edi
>>>>>>>>>> tS
>>>>>>>>>> c
>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>> m
>>>>>>>>>> aFrame$3.actionPerformed(ViewSchemaPlugIn.java:746)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.SchemaPanel.fireActionPerfo
>>>>>>>>>> rm
>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>> d(
>>>>>>>>>> S
>>>>>>>>>> chemaPanel.java:687)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.SchemaPanel.applyButton_act
>>>>>>>>>> io
>>>>>>>>>> n
>>>>>>>>>> Pe
>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>> formed(SchemaPanel.java:677)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> com.vividsolutions.jump.workbench.ui.SchemaPanel$14.actionPerfor
>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>> d
>>>>>>>>>> (S
>>>>>>>>>> c
>>>>>>>>>> hemaPanel.java:448)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseReleased(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue.access$500(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue$3.run(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersec
>>>>>>>>>> ti
>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>> nP
>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>> ivilege(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersec
>>>>>>>>>> ti
>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>> nP
>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>> ivilege(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue$4.run(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.security.ProtectionDomain$JavaSecurityAccessImpl.doIntersec
>>>>>>>>>> ti
>>>>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>>>>> nP
>>>>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>>>>> ivilege(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown
>>>>>>>>>> Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                               at
>>>>>>>>>> java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is what I get with Copy schema from the failing layer
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> GEOMETRY      GEOMETRY
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> gml_id               STRING
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mtk_id               LONG
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> gidm                   STRING
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> dimension        LONG
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sijaintitarkkuus                           LONG
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> aineistolahde  LONG
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> alkupvm            STRING
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> kohderyhma   LONG
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> kohdeluokka   LONG
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> keskikorkeus  STRING
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> saannostelynalaraja                  STRING
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> saannostelynylaraja                  STRING
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> vedenpinnankorkeusluvutviittaus                   STRING
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> versio                 LONG
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> R_G_B               STRING
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If I use Paste style to a new layer only "gml_id" gets created.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Jukka Rahkonen.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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