Peppe,

would you mind posting your answer in the jira ticket [1] or do you want me to 
post it in your stead?

..ede

[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMAGING-267?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels%3Acomment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=17200118#comment-17200118

On 22.09.2020 18:37, Giuseppe Aruta wrote:
> /First off, this TIFF appears to be geophysical data.  But there are no 
> GeoTIFF tags bundled with the image. Judging from the ModelTiepointTag, it 
> appears that the original image was configured using a projected coordinate 
> system, maybe a UTM zone.  It might help me understand this better if there 
> were more location information attached to the image. Do you have that 
> information?/
>
> No. This image comes from image samples used by Victor Oyala to test Sextante 
> and had no attached crs . I think this image is related to an UTM zone in 
> Spain.
>
> /Secondly, I note that this TIFF file is not strictly-speaking an image , but 
> is actually numerical data stored using the TIFF standard floating-point 
> raster format.  My guess is that it's probably elevations. The ability to 
> process TIFF files containing floating point data was introduced in the most 
> recent release of Commons Imaging./
>
> Yes, Those are elevation data
>
> /I've attached the image I produced (ISSUE_267.JPG).  However, to create it, 
> I had to know before hand what the range of values was.  So my application 
> does a few extra steps that I did not show in the example above.  I was 
> wondering how the software you used handles this issue.  Is it all automatic?/
>
> Yes. In OpenJUMP reads the range either in a aux.xml sidecar file or it 
> computes using JAI.create("extrema") method
>
> /Also, a second question I had is that the PhotometricInterpretation tag 
> given with your image is 1, which means "0 is black".   In other words, the 
> palette should range from the darkest shading for the lowest numerical values 
> to the lightest shading for the highest values. However, in looking at your 
> image I notice that the lowest value pixels are drawn in the lightest colors, 
> which seems to contradict the setting in the source TIFF file.  In the image 
> I've attached, the lowest value pixels are draw in the darkest colors, which 
> is consistent with the specification in the TIFF image.  Is there some 
> setting in the application you used that overwrites the settings from the 
> TIFF file?/
>
> The  buffered Image to display into the view of the monoband is overwritten  
> in order to define a range of colours used to display it (I think it is the 
> method stretchImageValuesForDisplay() in RasterImage class). This method 
> defines the range of colour (Bloack to white) and saves as 
> RasterImageSymbology map (sorry for bad explanation). Thus we can change the 
> range of colours, creating a discrete range instead of continuous one, set a 
> subrange/value of the pixel to a specific colour
>
> Il giorno mar 22 set 2020 alle ore 15:33 <edgar.sol...@web.de 
> <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>> ha scritto:
>
>     hey Gang,
>
>     Gary at Apache-Commons-Imaging has some questions regarding a monoband 
> TIF i provided. would one of you with a deeper knowledge of rasters (Peppe, 
> Jukka, both?) answer him please in the ticket linked below (you need an 
> account, so may have to register, but it's painless and fast).
>
>     thanks.. ede
>
>
>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>     Subject: [jira] [Commented] (IMAGING-267) Colorful rendering of b/w 
> Monoband TIF
>     Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2020 00:06:00 +0000 (UTC)
>     From: Gary Lucas (Jira) <j...@apache.org <mailto:j...@apache.org>>
>     To: edgar.sol...@web.de <mailto:edgar.sol...@web.de>
>
>
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>     Gary Lucas commented on IMAGING-267:
>     ------------------------------------
>
>     Thank you for posting the images. They may help to answer some issues 
> I've wondered about for awhile.  I've inspected their content and I have a 
> few questions for you.
>
>     First off, this TIFF appears to be geophysical data.  But there are no 
> GeoTIFF tags bundled with the image. Judging from the ModelTiepointTag, it 
> appears that the original image was configured using a projected coordinate 
> system, maybe a UTM zone.  It might help me understand this better if there 
> were more location information attached to the image. Do you have that 
> information?
>
>     Secondly, I note that this TIFF file is not strictly-speaking an image , 
> but is actually numerical data stored using the TIFF standard floating-point 
> raster format.  My guess is that it's probably elevations. The ability to 
> process TIFF files containing floating point data was introduced in the most 
> recent release of Commons Imaging.
>
>     One challenge of floating point images is how to map the range of values 
> to gray scale. In this case, the following text gives the TIFF Tags attached 
> to the image:
>
>     Directory 0 Has TIFF Image Data, description: Root
>       256 (0x100: ImageWidth): 601 (1 Long)
>       257 (0x101: ImageLength): 410 (1 Long)
>       258 (0x102: BitsPerSample): 32 (1 Short)
>       259 (0x103: Compression): 1 (1 Short)
>       262 (0x106: PhotometricInterpretation): 1 (Indicates "zero is black")
>       277 (0x115: SamplesPerPixel): 1 (1 Short)
>       278 (0x116: RowsPerStrip): 8 (1 Long)
>       339 (0x153: SampleFormat): 3 (Indicates float-point format)
>       33550 (0x830e: ModelPixelScaleTag): 25.0, 25.0 (2 Double)
>       33922 (0x8482: ModelTiepointTag): 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 262846.525725, 
> 4464275.0, 0.0 (6 Double)
>       42113 (0xa481: GDALNoData): 45, 51, 50, 55, 54, 56, 46, 48 (8 Byte)
>
>     Upon inspection, I find that the values in the image range from 514 to 
> 2410.  Commons Imaging does have an API element called the 
> custom-photometric-interpreter that lets an application specify how colors 
> (or gray tones) are assigned to elevations.  So in this case, I was able to 
> render the data by specifying the following lines:
>
>     {{ HashMap<String, Object> params = new HashMap<>(); }}
>     {{ PhotometricInterpreterFloat pi  = }}
>     {{      new PhotometricInterpreterFloat(514.0f, 2410.0f);}}
>     {{ params.put(TiffConstants.PARAM_KEY_CUSTOM_PHOTOMETRIC_INTERPRETER, 
> pi);}}
>     {{ BufferedImage bImage = Imaging.getBufferedImage(target, params);}}
>     {{ ImageIO.write(bImage, "JPG", output);}}
>
>
>
>     I've attached the image I produced (ISSUE_267.JPG).  However, to create 
> it, I had to know before hand what the range of values was.  So my 
> application does a few extra steps that I did not show in the example above.  
> I was wondering how the software you used handles this issue.  Is it all 
> automatic?
>
>     Also, a second question I had is that the PhotometricInterpretation tag 
> given with your image is 1, which means "0 is black".   In other words, the 
> palette should range from the darkest shading for the lowest numerical values 
> to the lightest shading for the highest values. However, in looking at your 
> image I notice that the lowest value pixels are drawn in the lightest colors, 
> which seems to contradict the setting in the source TIFF file.  In the image 
> I've attached, the lowest value pixels are draw in the darkest colors, which 
> is consistent with the specification in the TIFF image.  Is there some 
> setting in the application you used that overwrites the settings from the 
> TIFF file?
>
>     !ISSUE_267.JPG!
>
>
>
>     > Colorful rendering of b/w Monoband TIF
>     > --------------------------------------
>     >
>     >                 Key: IMAGING-267
>     >                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMAGING-267 
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IMAGING-267>
>     >             Project: Commons Imaging
>     >          Issue Type: Bug
>     >            Reporter: edgar soldin
>     >            Priority: Major
>     >         Attachments: ISSUE_267.JPG, mdt25a-commons.png, 
> mdt25a-sextante.png, mdt25a.tif
>     >
>     >
>     > see attached images.
>     > mdt25a.tif - the original tif
>     > mdt25a-commons.png - as rendered/read with Commons Imaging
>     > mdt25a-sextante.png - as rendered /read properly with ImageIO-Core from 
> https://github.com/jai-imageio/jai-imageio-core 
> <https://github.com/jai-imageio/jai-imageio-core>
>     > thanks!.. ede
>
>
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