Hi Richard, Thanks for the explanation. But, for example, suppose I have an ADVANCED license for 5 years. After 5 years, I do not remember or see the alarms from the equipment indicating that it will be out of license. Will all features stop working?
Regards, Javier. El mié., 8 abr. 2020 a las 1:20, Richard McGovern via juniper-nsp (< juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net>) escribió: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Richard McGovern <rmcgov...@juniper.net> > To: Chris Wopat <m...@falz.net> > Cc: Juniper List <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net> > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 04:18:21 +0000 > Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Flex licensing on MPC10 > Yes Flex Licensing allows the license to move from one device, to > another. You purchase a Flex license which last for a period of time, and > includes support - no extra Support SKU is needed. The license is NOT tie > to any hardware! This is different than older original Perpetual License > model. There you purchased License (upfront cost) tie to a specific piece > of HW, and then paid Support on top of this. if you did not renew Support > for the P License SKU, you lost ability to use those features, for > basically like forever. > > At this time many Juniper Licensed features are "honor based" and Juniper > uses EULA sort of like do not copy on DVDs __ A Flex License can only be > used on one applicable product, at any moment in time. If you want > multiple products to be allowed to run any licensed feature, multiple > license would need to be purchased. Now in the future if features (some > features are already there) are actually restricted without a license, if > you move a Flex License from one system to another, the feature support > moves with in. One major advantage for Flex vs Permanent Licenses, if you > only want to use a feature for say 1 or 3 years, you purchase license with > that length of time, and at the end you just do not renewal the license. > Now 1 or 2 years down the road you determine you want that feature back, > you just repurchase the license. With Permanent you could stop renewing > support after 1 or 3 years, but without continued Support Juniper is not > required to allow a renewal when years are skipped. Juniper may charge > extra for years you skipped support for a P License, or make you purchased > new License to get support. The upfront Cost for Permanent plus Support is > greater than the equivalent for Flex, but then the yearly cost of Flex > (which includes Support) is greater than P License Renewal cost. I believe > based upon some calculations, that on average Permanent is more cost > effective after like 7/8 years of use, vs Flex. In todays every changing > market dynamics, 7/8 years is like a very LONG time. > > Hopefully this helps. > > Just FYI, Rich > > > Richard McGovern > Sr Sales Engineer, Juniper Networks > 978-618-3342 > > I’d rather be lucky than good, as I know I am not good > I don’t make the news, I just report it > > > On 3/25/20, 3:32 PM, "Chris Wopat" <m...@falz.net> wrote: > > Hey folks, > > Anyone have MPC10's in production yet? Or perhaps any other shiny new > Junos > thing that is coming with only "Flex" licensing out of the gate (so not > mx204, mx10k3). > > We traditionally keep a warm spare device in the lab + purchase NBD > support, then spare from our lab whiile RMA'ing the faulty hardware. > With > flex licensed items, there's the hw cost, support cost, and additional > license. > > > https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos/topics/concept/juniper-flex-program-support-for-hardware-platforms.html#MPC10E > > Allegedly one can move the license around, but we're not quite sure > how. Is > there a self serve portal for this? Does one have to go through JTAC? > > How does the card act when unlicensed? IE we have it slotted in a lab > MX > blowing air, but that MX has CoS and other things configured. > According to > the link above, it looks like most things won't function without a > license. > Does it just throw a red alarm (for now)? Would it be unusable to lab > test > on various configs without a license? > > Cheers > --Chris > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Richard McGovern via juniper-nsp <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net> > To: Chris Wopat <m...@falz.net> > Cc: Juniper List <juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net> > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 04:18:21 +0000 > Subject: Re: [j-nsp] Flex licensing on MPC10 > _______________________________________________ > juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net > https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp > -- Atte. Javier I. Rodríguez Sotelo _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list juniper-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
