: Today I received an e-mail from this company: : Northern California Networks, Inc., (NCN) A licensed reseller of : new and used Juniper and Cisco gear and a long standing member of : United Network Equipment Dealers Association (UNEDA). A global : membership of authorized dealers and licensed resellers. I would say that if a sales droid comes to you based on responses to this list, or randomly shows up after a posting here, you should NEVER buy from them. It will turn this list into a sludge pot of sales critters hounding us incessantly and we'll be unable to ask questions like the original poster did. The only thing they understand is **immediate financial consequence**. Saying "please don't bother me" doesn't stop them. scott --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Massimiliano Galizia XMG \(RM/TEI\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "TCIS List Acct" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: [j-nsp] R: Juniper M-series vs 72xx/NPE-G2 Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 16:19:20 +0200 Today I received an e-mail from this company: Northern California Networks, Inc., (NCN) A licensed reseller of new and used Juniper and Cisco gear and a long standing member of United Network Equipment Dealers Association (UNEDA). A global membership of authorized dealers and licensed resellers. Hope this helps. Ciao MASSIMILIANO GALIZIA -----Messaggio originale----- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di TCIS List Acct Inviato: martedì 22 maggio 2007 15.55 A: [email protected] Oggetto: [j-nsp] Juniper M-series vs 72xx/NPE-G2 Hi all, We're operate two Data Centers offering typical Co-lo, Managed Hosting, and some business connectivity services. We are looking to upgrade our edge routing platform from Cisco 72xx/NPE400 routers to something with a little more growth potential. Right now, we are taking 3 x DS-3's for transit (no full routes at the moment) and have an OC-3 on order, as well as the possibility for a Gig-E handoff (175M commit) from a provider in the next 12 months. In any case, we are looking at our options in the Juniper world (vs a new 72xx/NPE-G2). New Juniper gear is outside of the budget, so we are looking for used M-series routers. I know the Juniper used market isn't as robust as Cisco, but I wanted to get the advise of others on the list. I had a few basic questions: - M5, M10, M20, or M7i - what is my best bet for the traffic levels mentioned above? We need the basics - BGP, OSPF, GRE tunnel capability, and some basic ACLs. Nothing fancy like MPLS, etc. - What is the difference between the non-"i" series vs the newer "i"-series? e.g. M10 vs M10i. How about the "Enhanced" vs non-Enhanced chassis? - What M-series router should I be looking for on the used market? Specifically, what one should have the greatest availability. - What routing engine should I be looking for? I see a lot of RE-333's out there, but don't see a "performance chart" anywhere on Juniper's site - Does anyone have advise regarding Juniper's recertification process on used gear? We would need at least basic support/JUNOS upgrades on whatever we buy - Does anyone have a suggestion on who to source the used gear from? TIA. --Mike _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp
