Hi Mike,

On 22/09/2010, at 5:13 AM, TCIS List Acct wrote:

> The J-series specs (which run JunOS) did seem to list a specific # of VRs, 
> not sure if that is a license limit or just a "capacity" type of rating.  
> This PDF is quite handy for specs like that:
> 
> http://www.juniper.net/us/en/local/pdf/datasheets/1000265-en.pdf
> 
> For instance, it lists the J-6350 as having 30 VRs.

My experience with the JUNOS data sheet numbers is that they are the maximum 
"supported" from a JTAC perspective, however the box will continue to take 
configuration until it runs out of memory.  I just had a quick look back 
through the j-nsp archives for an old post of mine, where in JUNOS 8.4 I wrote 
a script that built 300 VRs (which was an arbitrary number) for a customer 
trying to do almost exactly what you are doing.  There certainly is no 
licensing on the J-Series (or SRX) for the number of VRs.

> It isn't clear from your answer if if I can have 192.168.1.x exist as a 
> remote network for multiple customers (each with their own VR).. can you 
> clarify?

>From a routing perspective, yes - all VRs are logically separate routing 
>domains, so you can have overlapping prefixes without any issues.  Similarly, 
>your firewall rules will be applied to zones which contain interfaces, which 
>are placed in these VRs, so different zones can have overlapping address 
>objects and your rulesets will all work as expected.  

Where things become difficult is when you have multiple customers in their own 
zones/VRs and you want them to egress through a single zone/interface - if 
anyone out there has a solution (elegant or otherwise) for this scenario, I'd 
love to hear about it.

In the next week or so, I've got some IPSEC work that needs to be done for a 
customer who would like tunnels split between VRs as well, so I'll come back 
with my findings there.


> Ben Dale wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>> In ScreenOS you can achieve all of your requirements using VSYS, however you 
>> will find this is a fairly expensive road to go down with large numbers of 
>> clients (VSYS are licensed).
>> In JunOS you should be able to meet all of your requirements without any 
>> licensing issues - VRs are "free" and will do most of the same 
>> functionality. The only limitation is IPSEC tunnelling from within a VR 
>> which is currently in a state of flux (currently the interface the IKE 
>> gateway is bound to has to live in the global routing table), but I imagine 
>> this will be fixed in time.
>> Cheers,
>> Ben
>> On 21/09/2010, at 5:02 AM, TCIS List Acct wrote:
>>> We are looking to provide "virtual firewalling/VPN" services to customers 
>>> hosted in our VMware and Hyper-V hosting environments (trying to avoid 
>>> dedicating a physical NIC port for each customer on the host and hanging a 
>>> firewall appliance off of each).  In a nutshell, each customer gets their 
>>> own VLAN subinterface (which will cascade all the way down into their 
>>> virtual machine), and we can define unique firewall rules (as well as 
>>> establish IPSec VPN tunnels) on a per-customer basis.
>>> 
>>> I'm looking at the following platforms:
>>> 
>>> SSG-500 (ScreenOS)
>>> Juniper J-series (JunOS)
>>> 
>>> It is not clear if I simply need the VR (virtual router) or VSYS (virtual 
>>> system) feature(s) to do this -- I need a unique routing table, a unique 
>>> set of firewall rules/zones, and the ability to define VPN tunnels even if 
>>> there are overlapping VPN endpoint networks among multiple customers (e.g. 
>>> both Customer "A" and Customer "B" use 192.168.1.x on their side).
>>> 
>>> Any insight would be much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> --Mike
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