Hello,
I think we are missing some important details here.
AFAIK, in order to detect MAC moves, the port must be in a bridge-domain/VPLS instance.
So Your MX480 ae0 must be a L2/"bridged" port, not a L3/routed one.
So the question would be - are there any other ports on this MX480 in same bridge-domain(BD)/VPLS instance? If not, but You have an IRB interface in this BD, does it have "IS-IS passive" enabled by any chance? "IS-IS passive" does not actually stop ES-IS PDUs being sent out, so these pesky ES-IS mcast frames could be the ones which looped. Additionally, MAC move limiting is not supported on EX4550 VC and in mixed EX4200-4500/4550 VC so if Your EX4200 VC is actually a mixed EX4200-4500/4550 VC there is no chance getting it stopped on EX. https://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-independent/junos/topics/concept/ex-series-software-features-overview-vc.html#port-security-features-by-platform-table
Thanks
Alex

On 07/11/2014 14:18, Jeff Meyers wrote:
Hello everybody,

I'm writing to this list because I can't seem to find the reason for what we saw twice meanwhile. Here is the setup:



   Juniper MX480     no RSTP
         ||
         ae0
         ||
  Juniper EX4550 VC    RSTP bridge id 0
         ||
         ae0
         ||
  Juniper EX4200 VC    RSTP bridge id 16k
          |
    ProCurve 2824    RSTP bridge id 32k
          |
      Windows Host


So the router itself is not part of the Spanning-Tree, everything below is. On the Windows host, the customer is running ESXi with just one uplink towards the HP ProCurve switch so there is not even a real danger for a physical loop. Now: on the host are two VMs running. Each of them has a virtual NIC which is bridged to the physical one of the host. Because of a mistake, the customer accidentally bridged his two VMs together as well which caused a loop inside the Host. So far, so good.

The trouble begins at this point because immediately we saw partial network outages resulting in router messages like this:

Nov 7 14:30:47 cr0 l2ald[2545]: L2ALD_MAC_MOVE_NOTIFICATION: MAC Moves detected in the system


This message repeated over and over and the ARP counter decreased continueously. Host flapped and vanished for seconds or minutes and internal smokeping measured a lot of loss.

The HP ProCurve logged only excessive broadcast for the customer port and that's it. Spanning-Tree didn't recognize anything. The same applies to the EX4200 VC and the EX4550 VC: nothing was detected by the loop preventing procotol and it was only a lucky shot, that we knew where to look because the customer called by phone and told us, what he did.

The question is: how can that be and what can I do?

On the EX-series switches, each downlink port is configured with

set protocols rstp interface ge-0/0/0 no-root-port

storm-control is enabled on all ports with 85% (but none was detected). There is no special configuration on the ProCurve besides the general RSTP activation (which is set to RSTP and not STP).


So can anybody help with that? I am really stuck here.. :(


Thanks in advance,
Jeff
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