At Thu, 27 Dec 2018 11:43:58 +0100, Bjørn Mork <[email protected]> wrote: > > Chris Morrow <[email protected]> writes: > > On Wed, 26 Dec 2018 14:11:19 -0500, > > [email protected] wrote: > >> > >> Now if Juniper could implement TCP-AO and then donate the implementation > >> to FreeBSD? :-) > > > > This was sort of my point, yes. > > Thanks, as always for your cogent point(s). > > I don't follow FreeBSD development, but googling for TCP-AO > implementations a couple of months ago led me to believe they already > did? Ref > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-transport/2016-March/000101.html > > I'm sure someone will set me straight now ;-)
'i am also not a freebsd person' but: https://wiki.freebsd.org/BjoernZeeb bjorn had said when last I ran into him that he was still planning on working on AO :( (he happens to also reply to the above thread, no details in reply) > > > -chris > > (without something to break the ao logjam we'll just keep on having > > this argument, maybe we can isntead paste-bin this thread and just > > refer all other callers there? :) ) > > The fact that the work was mostly done 10 years ago, but no one has I figured that: me: "There's no support in the device/code, I still have md5... md5 does what I want." coupled with: vendor(s): "there's no support in base-os for our gear, no one is really asking for it..." > bothered to finish the job, shows us what we should expect of the next > 10 years: > > https://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=121642691623828 > https://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=121642691723832 > https://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=121642691823836 > > I don't know why Adam never pushed this patch set further. There > weren't any major objections to it AFAICS. Maybe I'm missing something? > i also don't know and checking my sept conversation he didn't reply, so I poked that just now. > Getting traction after losing it is hard. > > The problem now is that even if you took this code, rebased it to > current net-next and did the necessary fixups, then it would go into > Linux v4.22 (or 5.whatever) released in April 2019. The feature would > then go into the next major distro releases *after* the releases which > are already being prepared for 2019. This means TCP-AO might be > available for applications running on plain Debian stable or RHEL > kernels in 2021. And that's being a bit of an optimist... > ok, 2021 is better than 'never' or '2yrs after the next conversation' right? :) > Yes, another alternative is obviously running TCP in userspace. But I > will gladly go to certificate hell if I can avoid that. user-space tcp seems a bit more implementation specific and probably means similar timeframes to solve... given the spread of OS/Vendor problems. -chris _______________________________________________ juniper-nsp mailing list [email protected] https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/juniper-nsp

