Kyle,

Thanks for posting about the JSON table schema here. I do think it
would be great to start building support for that...

Cheers,

Brian

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Kyle Kelley <[email protected]> wrote:
> Since I noticed deep within you mentioned nice custom table formatting --
> would you consider exporting a custom mimetype that uses
> http://specs.frictionlessdata.io/json-table-schema/ for the table spec? We
> can then write CSS to match tables and their output types directly.
>
>
> The difficulty with adjusting CSS is that it's not something specced at the
> same degree as the notebook format and message protocol are. We can always
> provide a "solution" that interoperates with some amount of CSS, but it's
> not a good long term solution.
>
> -- Kyle
>
> P.S. I totally use `<style>` outputs in HTML cells that later outputs can
> rely on for classes. The problem with that is the settings must be in
> context globally with CSS, which prevents any version of the notebook from
> using iframes and interoperating with this kind of setup.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Kyle Rawlins <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Main question: Is there a good / standard / accepted way to deal with
>> adjusting CSS for the outputs of _repr_html_/display.HTML, viewed in Jupyter
>> notebook?
>>
>> I'm using HTML to render relatively involved structures with tables/divs,
>> basically elaborate proof trees for a specific application in linguistics.
>> There's examples of the sort of thing I mean here, if you scroll; tons of
>> mathjax so wait for it to finish:
>> http://nbviewer.jupyter.org/github/rawlins/lambda-notebook/blob/master/notebooks/Lambda%20Notebook%20Demo%20(executed).ipynb
>>
>> Two ways that work, but aren't ideal:
>> * inline css properties.  This can get pretty tedious and inelegant,
>> especially when you want to do something different than .rendered_html.  But
>> it seems to basically always work, and maybe I shouldn't think so hard about
>> this since my html is generated automatically anyways.
>> * insert a <style> block at the beginning of the HTML output.  Can result
>> in much cleaner styling, but is a bit fiddly about loading and css
>> precedence, and seems pretty dubious standards-wise.  (There used to be
>> something called "<style scoped>" in HTML5 that did this, but it didn't get
>> picked up by most browsers and has been dropped altogether from the standard
>> earlier this year.)
>>
>> Thinks I've considered but I can't tell if they're a good idea:
>> * something more involved with display.Javascript or the like.
>> * I'm distributing this project as basically a kernel that is a light
>> wrapper around the IPython kernel plus a domain specific language, so as I
>> understand it I could include as part of the kernelspec a file "kernel.js"
>> that I could then use to dynamically set up the necessary styles.  However,
>> I can't really find much documentation about this file, even to know if this
>> is something that will stick around or if I'm understanding what this file
>> does correctly.  There's no "kernel.css", right?
>>
>> Things that won't work:
>> * user-specific custom css.  This is a software package centered around a
>> kernel, aimed at a fairly non-technical audience, and I don't want to mess
>> with user settings or require that they be edited as part of installation.
>> * running a setup cell in each notebook that injects the relevant styles.
>> (I really want to do this on load if possible.)
>> * I don't see how nbextensions would solve my particular case, e.g. the
>> ultimate solution here for nice custom table formatting
>> https://github.com/jupyter/notebook/issues/1182 (though maybe I'm wrong).
>> * display complex stuff in some other format, svg or something.  Maybe in
>> the long run, but html is _much_ easier in the short term and I'm using
>> mathjax in the html quite heavily.
>>
>> I found an open IPython issue that seems like the same problem, but it's a
>> bit inconclusive and hasn't been updated lately:
>> https://github.com/ipython/ipython/issues/7036
>>
>> Thanks for any feedback,
>> -kyle
>>
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