Do we know anyone at RTD? We could ask them how much they expect to make out of ads for our projects, and see how that compares to gold. I would not be surprised if gold actually makes them more money than our projects.
On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 9:36 PM, MinRK <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm happy with supporting RTD via the the current ads, as we concluded > before. If they get worse, we should definitely reconsider. I'd also be > fine with direct funding via a gold membership, if that is preferable to > people. As Paul pointed out, we are in a funded situation that makes this > possible. I'm not quite sure how exactly that would work, since RTD doesn't > seem to have org accounts. > > Since we use a custom theme on the main jupyter.readthedocs.io at the > moment, that site is not currently supporting RTD since ads are not shown. > > -MinRK > > On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Thomas Kluyver <[email protected]> wrote: > >> So long as the adverts are not crass or misleading, I think it's an >> acceptable price for the value we get from RTD. They seem to be doing a >> fairly good job of making them unobtrusive. >> >> On 9 December 2016 at 07:44, Carol Willing <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> Thanks Matthias for linking the original discussion. Paul, while I agree >>> with you that an ad-free experience has its merits, there is also value in >>> supporting the sustainability of ReadTheDocs, one of the most used open >>> source services. While we can certainly revisit the decision to have the >>> small ad on the sidebar, the team, back in March, felt that the benefit of >>> supporting the sustainability of RTD was important and outweighed the >>> distraction of a small ad. >>> >>> I've personally been a Gold contributor to ReadTheDocs for a long time >>> since I believe their service makes documentation more accessible and >>> helpful. There are some good Talk Python to Me podcasts that discuss the >>> RTD and open source sustainability. I would be happy to chat more about >>> sustainability when I see you next week. >>> >>> I don't have strong objections about removing the ads as long as >>> ReadTheDocs receives similar financial income from Jupyter to sustain the >>> RTD project. >>> >>> Here are some additional links re: sustainability and Jupyter popularity >>> on RTD: >>> >>> >>> - https://readthedocs.org/sustainability/ A fundraising campaign and >>> its results >>> - https://blog.readthedocs.com/read-the-docs-2015-stats/ Stats from >>> 2015 usage of RTD >>> - https://www.seethestats.com/site/readthedocs.org Stats from the >>> last 30 days on RTD usage. Interestingly, Jupyter documentation is among >>> the most visited documentation. >>> >>> Warmly, >>> >>> Carol >>> >>> *Carol Willing* >>> >>> Research Software Engineer, Project Jupyter >>> Cal Poly San Luis Obispo >>> >>> Director, Python Software Foundation >>> >>> Strengths: Empathy, Relator, Ideation, Strategic, Learner >>> >>> Sent from Nylas N1 >>> <https://link.nylas.com/link/68p140bimyedpd78wkdi7pwew/local-d11df4aa-ce37/0?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fnylas.com%2Fn1%3Fref%3Dn1&r=anVweXRlckBnb29nbGVncm91cHMuY29t>, >>> the extensible, open source mail client. >>> >>> On Dec 8 2016, at 6:22 pm, Paul Ivanov <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> I've been away for a while, but now that I'm back, I wanted to chime in >>>> that I was jolted by viewing our docs on a site that inserts >>>> advertisements, it cheapens the experience and somehow undermines their >>>> authority for me. >>>> >>>> According to this blog entry, this started happening in March of this >>>> year: >>>> https://blog.readthedocs.com/ads-on-read-the-docs/ >>>> <https://blog.readthedocs.com/ads-on-read-the-docs/&r=anVweXRlckBnb29nbGVncm91cHMuY29t> >>>> >>>> There is an opting out policy listed on there, and I just wanted to >>>> bring this up as something we should do, and gauge how other people feel >>>> about it. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure who's in charge of our readthedocs integration, but while >>>> we have some grant money, could we figure out how much a gold subscription >>>> would be? >>>> >>>> best, >>>> -- >>>> _ >>>> / \ >>>> A* \^ - >>>> ,./ _.`\\ / \ >>>> / ,--.S \/ \ >>>> / `"~,_ \ \ >>>> __o ? >>>> _ \<,_ /:\ >>>> --(_)/-(_)----.../ | \ >>>> --------------.......J >>>> Paul Ivanov >>>> http://pirsquared.org >>>> <http://pirsquared.org&r=anVweXRlckBnb29nbGVncm91cHMuY29t> | GPG/PGP >>>> key id: 0x0F3E28F7 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Project Jupyter" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ms >>>> gid/jupyter/CAKCGbV7d0JGMfqnLqXyvruhREFMQRuhbGVQvcjhgcMY958A >>>> Kjw%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAKCGbV7d0JGMfqnLqXyvruhREFMQRuhbGVQvcjhgcMY958AKjw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer&r=anVweXRlckBnb29nbGVncm91cHMuY29t> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout&r=anVweXRlckBnb29nbGVncm91cHMuY29t> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Project Jupyter" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ms >>> gid/jupyter/5oqe061kp7vdikc4dyw4o1m43-2147483647%40mailer.nylas.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/5oqe061kp7vdikc4dyw4o1m43-2147483647%40mailer.nylas.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Project Jupyter" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ms >> gid/jupyter/CAOvn4qijjTLOJVi1a5RiZO5eyCViTzy%2BMaGvsw_ >> 3oP9jAFHghA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAOvn4qijjTLOJVi1a5RiZO5eyCViTzy%2BMaGvsw_3oP9jAFHghA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Project Jupyter" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/ > msgid/jupyter/CAHNn8BVV97uwiAbZU%3DbS%3DzBWVQ%3DPoT9Yo_US- > xCz96cw4kUfkw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/jupyter/CAHNn8BVV97uwiAbZU%3DbS%3DzBWVQ%3DPoT9Yo_US-xCz96cw4kUfkw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Yuvi Panda T http://yuvi.in/blog -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Project Jupyter" group. 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