> Sorry for the rant, I get pretty worked up by things like those, having been burnt several times...

Hi DG,

Thanks for the apology.

Perhaps take a closer look at the information that Matthias provided. You can use the extension recommended by Matthias to add an autosave selector option to the notebook's toolbar.

See toolbar image <https://github.com/ipython-contrib/jupyter_contrib_nbextensions/blob/master/src/jupyter_contrib_nbextensions/nbextensions/autosavetime/icon.png>.

By setting the extension's autosave parameters <https://github.com/ipython-contrib/jupyter_contrib_nbextensions/tree/master/src/jupyter_contrib_nbextensions/nbextensions/autosavetime#parameters>, you can customize the behavior of the extension including setting autosave to 0 as Matthias recommended.

Feel free to open an issue and discuss a PR if after giving the above a try the extension does not meet your needs.

Thanks,

Carol

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Paul Hobson <mailto:[email protected]>
March 1, 2017 at 10:25 PM


    Sorry, NOT acceptable. I do NOT want to have to change every
    single notebook. Why should I?

    I think there are many people who dislike the auto-save option. I
    will give you just one example. I like to have a master version of
    the notebook, then I want to experiment. When I experiment, I just
    DON"T SAVE. So the master remains unchanged. With autosave, my
    master notebook will change WITHOUT ME NOTICING. You say, you can
    revert to the last manual save, but that's a *useless
    feature* because next time I edit the master notebook, I may want
    to make a permanent change, after which I will manually save. This
    save will now contain both the desired changes as well as the
    unwanted one. Now I have lost the ability to revert. It's a
    complete mess. Please don't ask me to change my habit, which I
    have formed in decades of using computers--not going to happen.

    Regardless of whether the Jupyter notebook developers agree or
    not, many of us have some very good reasons why we want to turn
    off auto-save PERMANENTLY. It should be an easy option and a
    user's choice.

    Just please make a version of the custom JS file work. Is it too
    much to ask?  Don't make us conform to the tool, make the tool
    conform to what the user wants.


DG,

Perhaps you could take a stab at pulling together a pull request on Github. Many jupyter developers work very hard on it on their own time. It's impossible for them to anticipate every use case. And at any rate, their hard work has culminated in the creation of very powerful tools that are provided absolutely free as in both beer and speech. When you stop to think about the lineage of the notebook in context of Fernado's original "afternoon hack" on the standard python REPL, it's quite remarkable.

As a user, I've come across the situation you describe. We're all different in this world, but my firs thought was to use the File menu to create a copy, work on that, then incorporate any changes into or overwrite the notebook.
-Paul

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DG <mailto:[email protected]>
March 1, 2017 at 10:14 PM
Sorry, NOT acceptable. I do NOT want to have to change every single notebook. Why should I?

I think there are many people who dislike the auto-save option. I will give you just one example. I like to have a master version of the notebook, then I want to experiment. When I experiment, I just DON"T SAVE. So the master remains unchanged. With autosave, my master notebook will change WITHOUT ME NOTICING. You say, you can revert to the last manual save, but that's a *useless feature* because next time I edit the master notebook, I may want to make a permanent change, after which I will manually save. This save will now contain both the desired changes as well as the unwanted one. Now I have lost the ability to revert. It's a complete mess. Please don't ask me to change my habit, which I have formed in decades of using computers--not going to happen.

Regardless of whether the Jupyter notebook developers agree or not, many of us have some very good reasons why we want to turn off auto-save PERMANENTLY. It should be an easy option and a user's choice.

Just please make a version of the custom JS file work. Is it too much to ask? Don't make us conform to the tool, make the tool conform to what the user wants.

Sorry for the rant, I get pretty worked up by things like those, having been burnt several times...
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Matthias Bussonnier <mailto:[email protected]>
March 1, 2017 at 1:45 PM

Things like this[1] allow you to tweak the save interval.
I believe an autosave interval of 0 (or negative values) disable it.
[1] is only a wrapper around custom.JS that already allows you to
tweak the value.



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