Hi Matthias,

Thank you for the explanation. I definitely won't be using the name Jupyter 
in my product's name. Nor will I use their logo or any recreation of it. 

Best,
Brendan Smith

On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 10:25:18 PM UTC-4, Matthias Bussonnier wrote:
>
> Thanks for the question, 
>
> I am not a  lawyer either and this is my personal interpretation of 
> the license, but more or less you can do almost whatever you want 
> with/to the code, you just need to make sure that attribution is 
> correct. For example this: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-made-this 
> is not allowed. 
>
> Most of the governance and legal mentions are for the "name" Jupyter 
> and anything associated with the "brand". It roughly tell you that you 
> are allowed to say your product uses or is based on Jupyter, but you 
> cannot use a name or logos in a way that could have a user be confused 
> about whether or not your product is part of, or associated with 
> Jupyter. You also can't do modifications of the logo without 
> authorisations. Example "EduJupyter" would probably violate trademark. 
> If your site is predominantly blue, you are technically not allowed to 
> make a blue variation of the Jupyter Logo with your color. 
>
> As a side note, defending the trademark is mandatory or the Jupyter 
> Project could lose it, if you ever ask "can I do X", and you get "no", 
> or we come to you and tell you you can't do Y, it might not be because 
> we don't like what you did, but because we are legally obliged if we 
> want to keep the trademark. 
> -- 
> Matthias 
>
> On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 18:38, William Stein <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > 
> > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 11:18 AM Matthew Seal <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > > Hi Brendan, 
> > > It's definitely possible to build products on top of Jupyter 
> Notebooks. There's many companies doing this already in a number of domains 
> and offerings. 
> > 
> > I founded one of those companies (see [1]), and I'm happy to video 
> > chat with you about my experiences.  Of course, I am not a lawyer and 
> > do not speak for the Jupyter project, but it's possible my experience 
> > could be helpful.  Feel free to contact me. 
> > 
> >  -- William ([email protected] <javascript:>) 
> > 
> > [1] https://cocalc.com/doc/jupyter-notebook.html 
> > 
> > 
> > >The governance is more about managing the open source code and 
> engagements that promote Jupyter. For building a commercial product you 
> usually don't need to worry about the project internal governance. 
> > > 
> > > Most (perhaps all?) software under Jupyter is licensed with 3-clause 
> BSD license which gives open permission to reuse the code without needing 
> to coordinate with Jupyter teams. If you distribute code to people you have 
> to include the license as described in the link. Hosting a webserver 
> doesn't require this license sharing, just if you send someone source code 
> from the open source repositories. 
> > > 
> > > If you contribute code that can be shared we're always happy to take 
> pull requests to get that code into the open source repositories as well so 
> you and others can equally benefit. 
> > > 
> > > Hope that helps, 
> > > Matt 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 3:11 AM Brendan Smith <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >> Hi, 
> > >> 
> > >> I would like to build a commercial educational product using Jupyter 
> Notebooks. Is this possible? 
> > >> 
> > >> I have read Jupyter's governance, but am struggling to fully 
> disentangle the legal jargon. 
> > >> 
> > >> Thank you for your time, 
> > >> Best, 
> > >> Brendan Smith 
> > >> 
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