> There's also http://langpop.com/ which is very up-front about its > methodology -Tim
Yeah, that's mine, thanks for mentioning it! I also attempt to grab more sources than TIOBE does, to just give people a lot of different things to look at. Right now, for instance, I'm working to add irc channels in the 'talk' portion of the stats. It's impossible to do really good statistics of this type, but I think it's fun to see what turns up in any case, and while there are some problems (which I do note on the site), by and large, I think the results do reflect what my "nose in the wind" tells me about what's going on. John Wilson says: > For languages which are of direct interest to this list I think the > best metric is mailing list usage (markmail.org is very good for this) That's true for smaller languages, which probably includes a lot developed by people here (like my own Hecl, which is unfortunately significantly less popular than langpop.com despite being a lot more work on my part), but for larger ones, is going to be pretty much impossible to keep track of. I bet there are tons of Italian forums on PHP, for instance. Multiple that by languages, user groups, countries, and it's going to be impossible to keep track of. With anything though, you have to think about biases - lots of people like to talk about Haskell, for instance (the IRC channel is huge), but how much is it actually used in production? It's best to just throw lots of numbers out there and let people make up their own minds, is the conclusion I reached, and what I strive for with langpop.com. What might be an interesting addition to langpop.com is a list of "up and comers", which could indeed use different, and potentially more accurate metrics. -- David N. Welton http://www.welton.it/davidw/ http://www.dedasys.com/ --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "JVM Languages" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jvm-languages?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
