The book sales numbers are good -- I'll take a look at those. Job trends are okay, and I've got a page of those I'm following[1].
I'm not a fan of conference attendence -- that may speak more to the culture of. Rubyists in particular are a social bunch -- the Pradipta 416 wouldn't have happened if you hit up OCaml developers, and I may be going to RubyRX down here in Raleigh, even though I don't really do much with Ruby these days. Also, who do you chalk the No Fluff, Just Stuff conference attendance up to? Java? Groovy? Scala? I'm putting together a blog post. I might do regular tracking of said metrics. [1] http://enfranchisedmind.com/blog/job-graphs/ ~~ Robert. Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: > Robert Fischer wrote: >> Is there any kind of reasonable language adoption metric out there? I'm not >> sure how one might >> measure that, but it's hard to tell which languages have more mindshare -- >> get different people with >> different focuses together, and they seem to have wildly different guesses. > > Tim O'Reilly has used book sales numbers as a measure a couple times, > and it's probably not a bad measure to use. People that buy a book on a > language or libraries related to the language are making a real, > measurable investment in it. Related to this is probably just the number > of books published on a subject, since it means authors at least believe > there will be a market. > > In some of my presentations I've used conference attendance as a > measure. For example, there were more Ruby conferences in 2008 than > Menudo has albums. Most of the conferences were smaller affairs (50-200 > people) but RailsConf has gone from 500 people to 1500 people to 2500 > people. And most of these conferences cost money, so again, there's a > real measurable investment going on. > > I'd like to hear about other metrics too. There's obviously no > scientific way to measure it, so these are all estimate based on some > other concrete fact. But we can probably get pretty close. I think > that's some of the idea behind TIOBE...they're trying to aggregate a > number of metrics to form a rough picture. It's probably not super > accurate, but it does illustrate some interesting trends. > > - Charlie > > > > -- ~~ Robert Fischer. Grails Trainining http://www.smokejumperit.com/grails_training.html Smokejumper Consulting http://smokejumperit.com Enfranchised Mind Blog http://enfranchisedmind.com/blog Check out my book, "Grails Persistence with GORM and GSQL"! http://www.smokejumperit.com/redirect.html --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "JVM Languages" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/jvm-languages?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
